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    Ammo

    The post is Defensive Ammo
    I think a load of 12 GA #4 BUCK beats
    a 9 mm any day just saying
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    Sure it does, but when that guy sneaks up behind either of us in a public restroom with a knife to take our wallets and doesn't care if we live or die, and I respond with a quick double-tap to his chest with a 9mm but you have your shotgun in the vehicle, then 9mm wins.

    Left behind guns don't count, I never saw a concealed shotgun permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0.02 View Post
    Left behind guns don't count, I never saw a concealed shotgun permit.
    Why not a derringer in .410?

    Ok I just had to be the first to point something stupid like that out.

    I think almost any common pistol calliber bigger than 9mm is better. But thats only my opinion. I subscribe to the philosophy that you not only win the fight by putting a hole in the bad guy first, but by putting the biggest damn hole in the bad guy.... first.

    A shotgun is also my last choice for defense, and if shotgun comes into play I would rather have slugs over buckshot.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopher View Post
    The post is Defensive Ammo
    I think a load of 12 GA #4 BUCK beats
    a 9 mm any day just saying
    I use #6 - #4 - 00 - Slug rinse repeat. Home gun only.

    What I really want to know is 357 Sig as good as 357 Magnum.

    How about 45 Auto vs 45 GAP

    9mm vs. 9mm Kurtz

    38 Spec vs. 38 S&W

    You get the idea...
    Procrastinators are the leaders of tomorrow.

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    357sig vs 357magnum - I have seen some data that is putting 357sig it down around the class of 9mm, and I haven't seen any convincing data that it is anywhere near 357 magnum. Magnum is a hard one to beat and I think it is going to be king for a long time. Lets put it this way, would you hunt deer with sig or magnum. I say 357 magnum, I wouldn't want to have to chase the thing all over.

    45 auto vs. 45 GAP - I can almost guarantee the GAP is not nearly as good as the 45 acp.

    9mm vs. 9mm kurts - neither

    38 spec vs 38 S&W --- I am not sure on that one.



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    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    357 sig vs 357 mag... generally the advantage goes to the mag, but as barrel length gets shorter (around 3 - 3.5"), the sig is more effective

    9mm over 9mm kurtz (duh!)
    38spec over 38s&w (double duh!)
    daisy red rider vs 38s&w ? now that would be a tough one to call :-)

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    OMG... not this stuff.

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    HAHAHA. I don't want to get shot by a .22 let alone a .357 or 12 gauge

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    I don't even want shot by a .177 BB or a 68cal paintball, let alone anything powered by gunpowder!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopher View Post
    The post is Defensive Ammo
    I think a load of 12 GA #4 BUCK beats
    a 9 mm any day just saying
    For your question, the response is any 12 GA shell will work; however, low recoil 12 GA ammo would be better

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