What is it?

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    Question What is it?

    I have 1/2 a box of 9mm ammo that was my dad's that I can't identify. The rim says "WIN", I assume Winchester, and the tip is flat with a blue plastic looking covering across it. What is it? Is it particularly good for defensive use?
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    The blue plastic suggests to me the possibility of it being shot shells! Many makes have colored plastic that holds small shot. Sometimes sold as ''snake'' shot rounds.

    Otherwise not sure.
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    Hate to say it, but this topic is useless without pictures.

    But Chris is probably right, it sounds like snake shot.
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    Don't have a digital camera so I can't post a photo right now. It's not a shot shell. It's a hollow tipped bullet with a copper jacket, sealed with a plastic like substance. I took my pocket knife to one to see what was under the blue stuff. I'll see if I can get a photo soon.
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    Pow'RBall Is this it?
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    I don't know whose brass they are using now, but they could be vintage Glaser Safety Slugs. I bought some when I first heard of them (about 20 years ago I guess) and I believe they were in Winchester brass.

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    Not Pow'rball. I'm sure these rounds were purchased mid 1990s, as my father passed away in 1998. I'll try to find a photo of the Glaser.
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    After doing a search online, the best I can tell from the limited photos I could find is that the round is indeed an older Glaser Safety Slug. I'll have them all shot up next time I go to the range so I'll have an excuse to give my wife to buy more high dollar defensive ammo.
    Now for that optimal defensive round, should I go with............?
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    I believe that you ammo, if it is old is the load that was made for indoor shooting with no exposed lead, I will eventually think of the name of it.
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    It's old Glaser

    They used flat blue plastic instead of the ball of the modern stuff and loaded it into Winchester or R+P brass. Can't get the link to work here at work, but try Cartridges of the World. If you like the Glaser and a fragmenting bullet meets your "stopping power" needs, that's fine for a defensive load. But... Probably should spring for the new stuff instead of trusting ammo that's old and of unknown history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjmillig View Post
    .........Now for that optimal defensive round, should I go with............?
    Depends. How long is the barrel of your pistol?

    I prefer Speer Gold Dot GDSB (Gold Dot Short Barrel Hollow Points) for my guns with barrels 3 inches and shorter. I use Federal HST in my barrels of 4 inches and longer.
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    That load was worked up back when ... about the time epa came out with lead level standards that everyone panicked over .. about when ny clad came out . exposed lead then was a no no for range use . As far as a good 9mm ( or any other cal it is offered in ) defensive load , you could stray a long ways and never equil the cor bon " dpx " loading . howeaver i will point out that today ammo really wont gain an advantage since all of it is loaded to and should meet the fbi spec . for penetration .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    I don't know whose brass they are using now, but they could be vintage Glaser Safety Slugs. I bought some when I first heard of them (about 20 years ago I guess) and I believe they were in Winchester brass.
    I also bought some when I first heard of them, long time now, anyway the tips are blue; but round nosed, and are RP white brass

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