9mm defense ammo

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    9mm defense ammo

    Hello,

    I recently bought a glock 19 for house defense and carry. I purchased a box of Winchester Ranger 147gr SXT at the gun store and was wondering if this ammo is sufficient for self-defense situations?

    Thank you

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    If it says RA9T at the end of the box on the bottom right corner then you made a good choice.

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    If the gun eats it without burping - yep - that'll work!

    Also the Gold Dot options are good IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whyveear View Post
    If it says RA9T at the end of the box on the bottom right corner then you made a good choice.
    Yes it has that on the box. What does that mean?

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    RA9T is a model number. Personally, I've seen poor results in several real-world situations with the 147gr. subsonic ammo. I'd look at the 127gr. rounds... Ranger is a good choice, Speer Gold Dot is as well.

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    RA9T 127+P+ is my choice and if going with a Gold Dot bullet something in the 124+P. The 147 subsonics just don't do that well out of short guns.
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    Out of curiosity, how long of barrel should you have to use 147 gr. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2die View Post
    Out of curiosity, how long of barrel should you have to use 147 gr. ?
    Most use them out of what would be considered a full size service gun 4.5 to 5 inch.
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    When I carry a 9mm I like Cor-Bon 115 +P at 1250fps. That's what I run in my Beretta and will run in my next acquisition: Sig P226. Living here in hot south Florida I also carry all MagSafe in the primary mag (in the weapon) with Cor-Bon in the spare mag. If I moved someplace cold (heavy clothing) I'd switch to Cor-Bon, Speer Gold Dots or possibly Federal Hydra-Shoks. No bullet weights heavier than 124gr.

    Of course I train the good old MOZAMBIQUE anyway. Especially when I carry a 9mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by born2die View Post
    Out of curiosity, how long of barrel should you have to use 147 gr. ?
    My opinion is none. The subsonic 147gr. performs only slightly less bad out of a full-length barrel as it does from a typical short-barreled weapon.

    I'm not a big fan of 9mm overall... but, if that's what you're going to carry, at least get the most effective round for it.

    And, I don't like Corbon... but that's another rant for another time.

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    I know very little about ballistics and the such, but why is the heavy 9mm worse than the lighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
    When I carry a 9mm I like Cor-Bon 115 +P at 1250fps. That's what I run in my Beretta and will run in my next acquisition: Sig P226. Living here in hot south Florida I also carry all MagSafe in the primary mag (in the weapon) with Cor-Bon in the spare mag. If I moved someplace cold (heavy clothing) I'd switch to Cor-Bon, Speer Gold Dots or possibly Federal Hydra-Shoks. No bullet weights heavier than 124gr.

    Of course I train the good old MOZAMBIQUE anyway. Especially when I carry a 9mm.
    MOZAMBIQUE forgive my ignorence is that the mossad double tap one in the head o ne in the heart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2die View Post
    I know very little about ballistics and the such, but why is the heavy 9mm worse than the lighter?
    probably not enough ummph to penetrate 12".

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    Whups, sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo93 View Post
    MOZAMBIQUE forgive my ignorence is that the mossad double tap one in the head one in the heart?
    Sorry. Also known as FAILURE TO STOP drill...actually it goes: Two to the chest, PAUSE & ASSESS then one to the cranial vault (forehead).

    Little ditty goes like this: Two to the chest, one to the head....we'd like 'em alive....but we'll take 'em DEAD!
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    Wink Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo93 View Post
    probably not enough ummph to penetrate 12".
    That's essentially correct. It's hard to get a heavier 9mm round up to the velocities needed to expand well. That's why the 147gr is most often used as a subsonic load for suppressed weapons.
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