Magsafe or Glaser in a snubnose
I regularly carry a S&W 642. One of the problems with the pistol is getting follow-up shots quickly on target. Though it only shoots .38 it still is my most difficult carry gun to control in that sense. The combo of a reliable, easy to carry pistol with easy follow-up has raised my interest.
Has anyone shot Magsafe or Glaser in a snubnose revolver? I'm interested in hearing about your experience with perceived recoil with these types of ammo in the snubbie and the ability to place good follow-up shots. I've read the good and bad on the ammo and that has been discussed in other threads. I'm more interested in whether it is significantly more controllable with the smaller pistols.
MagSafes and Glasers in J-frames
I have both a 642 Lady Smith and a 642 Pro. I load the Lady smith with standard pressure Glaser silvers (wife's gun) and the Pro with Magsafe 65gr MAX. I use these loads after researching real world reports on shootings with these rounds. So far the idea that they would be ineffective due to limited penetration just does not pan out. Glasers have a very long track record and have recorded one shot stops over 90% even with 38spc. The standard Glaser Silvers go out of my wife's 642 at well over 1200fps. The MagSafes scream out at over 1600fps out of my 642 Pro. The Pro has a tiny bit more barrel at 2 1/8" but the additional length is all power port.
I've owned the 642 Lady Smith since it came out new. I think it was 1996 or so when I bought it for my wife but I ended up carrying it most of the time primarily as a back-up when I was a reserve deputy. I've fired more than a thousand rounds out of both. Most being the cheapest 158gr I could find when not reloading. My reloads were a 158gr semi-wadcutter that clocked out at about 850fps.
The standard 158grs certainly kick far greater than either the Glasers (including +P silvers) or even the scream'n MagSafes. The Glasers and MagSafes are certainly louder! But the Glasers and MagSafes shoot to point of aim with the 158gr-ers shooting about 5" high at 15yds. That is about as far as I shoot these at the range except for an occasional showing off at the 100yrd line shooting the clay skeet laying on the backstop. I can "usually" bust one with a cylinder full of 158grs. Being able to see were they hit on the back stop greatly helps to walk them in. I do that when I hear someone say a J-Frame is only good to about 10'.
Shooting fast a 10yrds I can easily keep them in the "A" zone. Farther than that I can keep them on the paper somewhere in the middle. But it does start looking much more like a pattern than a group.
I heard someone say that they had concerns if the shot hit the arm first. Well, with these rounds it may not go too far into the torso after hitting an arm but you won't have to worry about him using that arm again... ever! I've shot Armadillos here in Florida with these. That tough leather they have literally explodes on the back side of a chest shot from about 10'. These critters are fairly big here being about 8" thick at the chest. The MagSafe 38spc Max leaves a fist side hole on the back side so the fragments did go all the way through. I hit an Armadillo with my car and dispatched it with my Kahr MK40 using the MagSafe Mini Glock Load. It completely blew out the critter's chest from belly to front leg to front leg. The far side of the Armadillo's leather armor ripped open.
Bottom line is that the limited penetration of these rounds along with the long proven track record of consistent one shot stops makes them the perfect round for civilian conceal carry. Everyone should be concerned about over penetration, not to mention ricochets. These rounds don't do away with such concerns but they certainly lessen them.
During my 25 years in the Army, small arms round penetration was and should be a primary attribute. But for Police Officers or CCW civilian use... not so much.