Which 380 ACP load for self defense?

Which 380 ACP load for self defense?

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    Which 380 ACP load for self defense?

    I bought a new Bersa Thunder 380 and will be running it through its paces soon with a couple different kinds of ammo for defensive carry - assuming they all function fine - what do you all reccommend?

    Speer Gold Dot 90gr
    Corbon 90 gr HP?
    Hornady XTP 90 gr?
    Corbon DPX 80 gr?
    or regular plain jane FMJ?


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    I'm partial to the Remington Golden Saber myself, a bit of heavier slug at 102Gr.

    I've used Speer GD's and Fed. Hydra Shocks in the past and had zero issues in my Bersa.

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    I've got 2 of the Bersa's and I like the Golden Sabre's also, very accurate and function is perfect, Recently I finally found a box of Ranger T's in 380 and will be giving them a try also.
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    Use one with good expansion characteristics along with good penetration (heavier bullet). stay away from FMJ rounds for self defense.

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    Currently I have Federals in my PPK, any that have been listed should serve you well. Remember though the .380 is marginal as a fight stopper.

    "The first rule of a gun fight is to have a gun."

    A .380 in the hand is much better than a .45 in the gun safe!

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    After working on about a dozen .380 killings, I'm convinced that .380 FMJ penetrates adequately. On the other hand, I have real concerns with .380 hollowpoints' ability to penetrate to "the good stuff."

    A low-mass bullet at low speeds with a braking mechanism (the hollowpoint) built in? Not for me. I use the hottest ball that I can find. As chrono'd from my P232, that's Magtech's 95-gr load.

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    .380

    102gr Gold Saber, first choice. Hydra Shok, second choice.

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    Hello,

    I use FMJ as well, albeit with a flatpoint. Currently I'm loaded with Winchester's WinClean. This former Communist Bloc Walther PPK clone hasn't complained about it yet. Though I can't get it to bobble on any HP either, I believe the best compromise is the flat point.

    My only other choice would be the 102gr GS because I believe it has the mass to get the job done.

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    I use DPX in my .380s. In the test I've seen they go the deepest and open all the time.

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    FMJ for penetration.

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    I carry one mag of Hydro-Soks loaded and a spare of FMJ
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    The DPX is what I carry in my Thunder 380cc. The stats Ive seen on it have been impressive. We all know real world results can vary widely from tests, but I like this stuff, and it seems to recoil less than the golden sabers I used to carry in it.

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    I use Corbons 90 grain HP, they shoot well.
    You'll like the Bersa, I've had my thunder dual tone for about 3 yrs, only complaint is that its not a bigger caliber but..they do make a 45 too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    After working on about a dozen .380 killings, I'm convinced that .380 FMJ penetrates adequately. On the other hand, I have real concerns with .380 hollowpoints' ability to penetrate to "the good stuff."

    A low-mass bullet at low speeds with a braking mechanism (the hollowpoint) built in? Not for me. I use the hottest ball that I can find. As chrono'd from my P232, that's Magtech's 95-gr load.

    I'm in Erichs' camp... when mass isnt the strong point of a particular load, you need to have penetration.
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    Here's a bunch of links to .380 test which help you or just confuse you more:

    Links to .380 Caliber Ammunition tests.
    (Some links may require user registration.)
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    Many .380 and other caliber tests. !!!You must register.!!!
    http://usrange.org/smf/index.php?board=39.0

    OG & Friend's Ballistic test Results
    http://www.ktrange.com/articles/a10/a10.html

    2d Gen P-3AT Analysis Part 2 (includes wet pack test)
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...4953776a49d0df

    The Last Crusade - .380 Wet Pack test
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...4791&view=next

    mouseguns.com - Ammunition and Ballistics
    http://www.mouseguns.com/amball.htm
    Scroll down to the .380 section.

    The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot26.htm

    Ballistic gelatin testing results : .32NAA 90 grain Sierra JHC
    http://www.thehighroad.org./showthre...oto=nextnewest

    DPX/Gold Dot Raccoon test.
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...8245402;start=

    Head-to-head test: DPX vs. Ranger-T
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...9377730;start=

    MONSTER WET NEWS MULTI-GUN-test
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...8670025;start=

    P3AT CHEAP JHP WETPACK test
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...6124717;start=

    Smilies and Wet Newspaper test
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...6435642;start=

    Wet Newspaper test: Corbon DPX .380 HP
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...7392682;start=

    Wet Newspaper test: Santa Barbara 87g.
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...3002383;start=

    Wetpack test: DPX, GD, GS, Ranger-T, etc.
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...8344941;start=

    WINTER/SUMMER WETPACK test DONE
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...8537757;start=

    Fly&Og Revisit DPX with GS, GD, and more!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...er=asc&start=0

    More Smiley tests with a 1G P3AT
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...asc&highlight=

    Smileys Revisited
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...er=asc&start=0

    THE FLY AND OG .380 DPX WETPACK test WITH 4 PISTOLS!!
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewto...asc&highlight=

    Cor-Bon .380 DPX "Wet Pack" test with LWS380
    http://www.seecamp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2...m=1148012398/0

    Cartridge Performance: .380 ACP
    http://www.geocities.com/bersa_thund...ges.html?20054

    Selecting a .380 Cartridge
    http://www.geocities.com/bersa_thund...es2.html?20054

    Bersa Thunder .380 with Cor-Bon 80-gr. DPX Ammunition
    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Bersa&#37;20Thunder.htm

    Brassfetcher .380 ACP tests
    http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP.html

    Cor-Bon .380 70 gr PowRBall
    http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/t...TOPIC_ID=10020

    Cor-Bon .380 80 gr DPX
    http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/t...TOPIC_ID=10021

    .380 ACP at StevesPages
    http://stevespages.com/page8f380acp.html

    Preliminary .380 wet pack report for your amusement
    http://www.ktrange.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=232

    Gel test today!
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...7146283;start=

    .380 Ammunition & Barrel Lengths at recguns.com
    http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IVG10.html

    UMC JHP/ AE FMJ ACCURACY SHOOT OFF
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...330024;start=0

    .380ACP Federal Hydrashok in gelatin
    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=175606

    Corbon DPX .380 into newsprint
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...num=1174574610

    Cor-Bon DPX .380 in Ham
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...num=1176045806
    See reply #4


    Ballistics data - 7 hollow point velocities
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...num=1178377727

    9mm Versus .380 ACP For Self-Defense
    http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aast9mmv380a.htm

    test Results: The effect of moisture on .380 ammo
    http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaB...05761;start=0#

    =====================================
    After looking at all these tests I finally decided on a Santa Barbara FMJ and Remington Golden Saber JHP mix.

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