3D Police 38spl Ammo - What Did I Buy This Time???

3D Police 38spl Ammo - What Did I Buy This Time???

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    3D Police 38spl Ammo - What Did I Buy This Time???

    Hello All,

    I was at the gunstore looking for 000 buck (they're out) when I ran across some 3D ammunition. This stuff is SJHP, and the box is not labeled as "+P". However, some of the caseheads are.

    It was interesting, so I bought it. Now I just need to know what it is - is it remanufactured, or did 3D buy a bunch of brass from different sources? Except for the headstamps, they all look uniform - that is, they all have the same bullet and the same bright nickel case.

    Does anyone know how old these are, and how hot? Is it safe for non- +P 38 revolvers? What the heck did I buy?


    Here is the top of the box... police cartidges? Maybe that explains the lack of headstamp consistency?


    The front of the box...


    Some headstamp samples. Notice one says "+P". That's confusing.

    The back of the box says this:

    3 - D POLICE CARTRIDGES are manufactured to rigid specifications, utilizing American-made, specially selected components, non-corrosive priming and modern smokeless powder. Bullets are specially designed for minimum leading and superior accuracy. Automatic production machinery is used exclusively throughout loading operation. Carbide dies and taper crimp provide maximum case life. These cartridges are adapted to all standard arms chambered for .38 special caliber and are guaranteed to perform satisfactorily.
    Any ideas, gents?

    Thanks,

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    My guess would be remanufactured. But I'm no expert.
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    I have had a lot of 3D in 38 spl and still keep a bunch of 3D headstamped brass as a batch for reloading.

    I am somewhat surprised to see such a mix of headstamps when the box has the 3D label. I'd guess they must be reloads but like as not would expect consistent std pressure loadings (but not assume such). I reckon the +P case crept in because it is a mix.

    I'd maybe check a couple thru a 357 and if possible chrono to see what the speed is - and even pull one too to establish bullet weight. I wonder if they are reloads from a police range, once fired, and so the ''police'' in the labelling. Can't see these as special ammo for police use.
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    Thank you.

    What good are reman HP loadings? I don't know that I'd like them for defense - maybe a woods load?

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    I have to admit - for SD use I'd stick religiously to top end factory offerings ... instance Speer GD's etc.

    These yeah - I'd not myself choose to stoke with those for carry but woods useage - sure - best choice probably. Altho I reload and like what I make - I'd not choose anything remanufactured elsewhere for critical applications.
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    One of the ranges I used to frequent sold 3D reloads in what looks to be an identical box. They also sold the brass they swept up back to 3D. I usually bought the 148 grain wad cutters. Very nice practice ammo, not too smokey and always went bang. I sort of lost track of them after I started "rolling my own" but heard they were going to start manufacturing "new" ammo also. I think the new stuff was supposed to be in a different colored box though.
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    3D Ammunition has been in business for a long time. These you have are reloads, AKA "remanufactured". The chances are about 99.9% that they are not +P.

    The "Police" label on the box is simply a marketing gimmick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    3D Ammunition has been in business for a long time. These you have are reloads, AKA "remanufactured". The chances are about 99.9% that they are not +P.

    The "Police" label on the box is simply a marketing gimmick.
    +1 for sure, as a deptartment (City Police) range master Etc. in South Dakota, all of our Qualifing, training, and practice Ammo was purchased from 3D in Nebraska that was in 1972. It was quite good, and we got credit for returned brass.
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    I had some 357 magnum JHP that I bought a few years ago.
    I had about 6 or 7 that did not go bang out of a box of 50.
    I will not buy anymore and recommend you purchase factory new
    for self defense.

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    I was just given a couple of boxes of 3D Co. .38 Special Police Target cartridges in 148 gr lead wadcutter. Look pretty old. Do I dare try them in my Ruger SP101 .357 mag??

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    They should be fine if stored properly.
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    I will be posting a series of videos on my youtube channel this summer regarding balistics. I will be doing more than just the typical "shoot into water jugs" testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roncodrummer View Post
    I was just given a couple of boxes of 3D Co. .38 Special Police Target cartridges in 148 gr lead wadcutter. Look pretty old. Do I dare try them in my Ruger SP101 .357 mag??
    By all accounts I've heard Ruger .357s are tanks. If it's .38spl, then your .357mag will handle it with no problem whatsoever.
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