Best 38 special SD round?

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    Best 38 special SD round?

    Hello everyone, I am new here an this is my first post. I just bought a S&W 357 magnum snubby for CCW. Everyone is telling me to use the 38 special+P instead of 357 ammo because of recoil issues. I was wondering what a good SD round in 38sp would be. I have heard alot of good things about the "Winchester Ranger Talon", but im not sure if thay make it for 38sp. Thanks in advance for your opinions.

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    First - welcome!

    For +P I favored the Corbon offering when I carried SP-101 ....... the 110 grain JHP.

    Stephen Camp tho still espouses the Rem lead SWC HP and he has references to that if you take a peak over on his site ... http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/

    Not so long ago we had a thread about sourcing for that ammo ... no link to hand I'm afraid.
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    Is it necessary to use the +p in my 357 or is standard 38sp just as good? What are the pros and cons?

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    No need to use +P at all - but in a strong gun able to take .357's it gives an ''edge''.

    Whether +P or not - just remember that sustained use of .38's, being 1/10" shorter, will over time leave a ring of carbon build up in chambers. That could if not cleaned out properly make insertion of full length .357's difficult or impossible.

    So - clean chambers well with the shorter cases if used.

    From a defensive POV I doubt really a huge difference between std pressure and +P - maybe 50 fps but - seems worth stoking with +p to have a small edge but with that retaining easier control over recoil and follow-up shots etc.
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    Speer Gold Dot 135gr +P

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    Me mother in-law carries Speer Gold Dot 125 gr +P. And I'm plenty affraid of'em!!! hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by kavity View Post
    Speer Gold Dot 135gr +P
    +1 I carry the Speers as well.
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    I personally like either the Speer Gold Dots or the Remington LHP.

    Here's a thread from a little while ago about places to find 158grn +P LSWCHP:
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=28984

    Also, here's a link to an article Mr. Camp wrote:
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    I'm a big fan of lead SWCHP's, although Cor-Bon DPX is looking good to me too.

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    Agree with the comments, you need to be able to adequately control whatever ammunition you decide on. You don't need to be able to shoot more than a cylinder to know what is going functional.

    Another vote for 357 Speer Gold Dot HP short barrels and Corbon DPX; both with reasonable recoil, low flash and well reviewed.

    I practice mostly with 38s but always run a cylinder or two through at the begining and end of my session. Shoot just about any semi-automatic after that and you'll chuckle about how mild the recoil is.

    Always feel safe carrying a 340 with 357s. If you find that the 38s are more your style, the same ammo can be had in 38.

    Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the forum.

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    I am a big fan of the 158gr LSWCHP from a snub barrel. I am not satisfied with the various 125gr - 135gr loads' penetration in several tests I've done thus far. Expansion is usually good, but the vitals are a bit deeper than these loads would indicate.

    I feel a 125gr to 135gr almost turns the .38spl into a .380acp, and that's not a good thing.

    But, find out what shoots to point of aim in your gun. I'm guessing it will either be 125gr or 158gr.

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    I carry Speer's 135gr +p myself
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    I bought a box of speer Gold Dot 125gr today. Also bought a box of cheap 130gr fmj to do some playing and get used to the snubby. Thanks for all the replies.

    p.s. Does anyone know where I can buy some
    "Winchester Ranger Talons" for this pistol and my 40 S&W? I cant seem to find them anywhere. I know they say "law enforcement", but Everything that I have read says they are NOT illegal for civilians to have them.

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    Yet another vote for the +P 158-grain LSWC-HPs, but I expect all of the above-mentioned loads will do the task at hand. Good luck with whatever you decide!

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