S&W 38 Spl Water + Denim test

S&W 38 Spl Water + Denim Test

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    S&W 38 Spl Water + Denim test

    Handgun: Rossi M68, 1-5/8" barrel
    Ammo: S&W 158gr +P LSWCHP

    A while back I did a bare water jug test on some old S&W "FBI load" rounds. I got back good penetration and good expansion.

    Today I set out to see what would happen when it passed through four layers of denim before entering the water.


    The usual setup, but with four layers of denim.


    A front view...

    Here I've been including a movie of the shot. Unfortunately I was shooting by myself today and didn't have someone to run the camera.


    This is the front jug after the shot. Not much disruption compared to the bare jug I shot before. Hmmm...


    The second and third jugs seem relatively unaffected. When shooting without denim, the second jug showed quite a bit of disruption - about as much as the first jug in this test.


    As it turns out, the bullet did pass through all jugs, stopping in the fifth, making a small hole and creating a leak.


    Here is my revolver, a dime, the fired bullet and an unfired round for reference.


    A closer look at the bullets. Notice the fired bullet is missing quite a bit of its nose. Upon closer inspection it looks as if it was chewed away by "something."


    And another view.

    When I went into this test I wasn't sure what the outcome would be. Modern bullets are designed to prove themselves against accepted testing protocol, but though this is an "old technology" round, I kind of expected a bit more to happen since water tends to cause cause the most bullet upset when compared to 10% gelatin and wetpack.

    While I'd like to test further, perhaps against another manufacturer of the same style bullet, I don't feel too handicapped. First, this was a short barrel. Second, I have penetration, which is a good thing. Lastly, this bullet did a bit better against four layer denim covered jugs than a 125gr +P round that I tested did against bare water jugs. Though that round expanded a bit, it didn't penetrate well.

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    Thanks for posting. I would have expected it to expand more, but atleast you got some good penetration from the old "FBI Load".
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