Winchester White Box Failure Rate
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Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your posting the documented problems. As with the internal lock issue, I had no idea it might be ...
September 6th, 2007 10:09 PM
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your posting the documented problems. As with the internal lock issue, I had no idea it might be an issue until I read it in this forum. This is a great forum with a vast amount of information. It is a stepping point towards understanding all these firearm issues. I simply want to put the information in perspective.
I just bought 1500 rounds of it for Brownie's class this weekend to be fire from my brand new XD9 (100 rounds total) I'll post my failures if I return.
September 6th, 2007 11:24 PM
I have put about 2,000 rounds of WWB .45ACP down range and have not had any problems.
Could it be that the people testing the stuff had bad guns?
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September 6th, 2007 11:42 PM
I haven't had any problems with WWB in .40 or .45 after about a total of 5,000 rounds. I am not "putting it out there" either (I hope). I like th idea of being able to afford a decent quantity for practice or SHTF. I carry Magtech Guardian Gold JHP in both pistols for defense.
My groups with WWB are decent and so far - reliable. I won't carry for defense unless I run out of the "good stuff."
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September 7th, 2007 03:34 AM
September 7th, 2007 10:30 AM
Just hit print on your computer. (make sure you have lots of paper. )
Originally Posted by P95Carry
some good info though. A good warning for people to consider, before using this brand of ammo.
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September 8th, 2007 01:06 AM
I just fired off 500 Winclean 9mm, with no problems
September 8th, 2007 04:12 PM
10s of thousands of rounds 9mm , .40, .45s can't remember one problem, gun problems but no ammo problems.
I have problems with premium ammo but WWB flawless operation so far.
September 8th, 2007 07:05 PM
I've never had ammunition related problems with WWB or Win Value Pack and I've shot quite a bit of it over the years. I know it's not primium ammo, but it's worked for me.
Having said that due to price differences I've switched to Remington UMC for my practice ammo. With a case price of $6.89/50 rds at Dick's it's the cheapest thing going around here except Wolf. The UMC also seems a bit snappier than WWB, so I assume a higher velocity though I haven't seen it chronographed.
I carry Winchester Super X Silvertips for SD ammo, though I can't afford to stockpile SD ammo so the UMC also makes up my SHTF supply.
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September 8th, 2007 08:47 PM
A firing range near me has banned it because of the number of problems they have had with it.
September 10th, 2007 09:08 AM
By any chance do they sell 'range' ammo?
Originally Posted by Jamie Young
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September 10th, 2007 09:35 AM
Let me guess...Target Masters?
Originally Posted by Jamie Young
If so Tangle hit the nail on the head, they push Remington UMC IIRC
September 10th, 2007 12:49 PM
One of the students in the Flagstaff class this weekend went through quite a bit of wwb with NO issues at all.
I personally went through another 500 wwb 9mm myself just demonstrating for the students with NO issues once again [ and I didn't expect any nor even gave it a thought after seeing this thread last week before heading up to Flag for the class ].
I'm sure one day I'll experience a dud or something with the amount of ammo I and the students go through but the first one will be after some tens of thousands of rds downrange all over the country with none prior.
Law of averages tells me I'll see something eventually, but when I do I'll be just as surprised as if I had not read this thread.
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September 10th, 2007 03:37 PM
I shoot WWB and have since I found it a while ago. Never really had any problems with it. I won't go to any range that picks my ammo for me. Especially if it's stuff they want you to pay double for from them.
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September 10th, 2007 08:01 PM
September 10th, 2007 10:47 PM
A question about the 45 acp ammo-- I noticed that the boxes were bigger (the 50 rd boxes) and instead of the white styrafoam insert, the plastic insert looked just like the Seller&Bellot inserts.
Also it seems that alot of the ammo problems were with the 'econo' 100 rd. box.
I went to Winchester.com and did not find any recall notices for .45 acp.
I have 10 boxes (50rds. each) of WWB and now I'm not sure I should shoot it up.
They all have styrafoam inserts and the ammo is at least 2 years old. Any Info on this would be helpful.
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