Czech 7.62x54R - What Can You Tell Me About It?

Czech 7.62x54R - What Can You Tell Me About It?

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    Czech 7.62x54R - What Can You Tell Me About It?

    Hi all,

    I picked up some Czech "silvertip" 7.62x54R made in 1963.

    When I went to research the stuff, I found a website that is selling it and claims that it's not corrosive.

    I have a very hard time believing that. Does anyone have proof to the contrary?

    Lessee... it's 147gr and doesn't seem to be driven as fast as some other stuff. I'll let my shoulder judge that here in a few minutes. It looks quite a bit like commercial Brown Bear but it's lighter. Is it considered mild AP?

    How's the accuracy compare to other milsurp?

    And, how are the local prices, meaning, no shipping? I'm wondering if I got a good deal.

    Anything else?

    Thanks,

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    Josh , you got some good plinking ammo there ( i consider anything under local antelope as plinking ) . With a solid hit it will take down a cyoute fine tho it will peferate so be shure of a back stop . the 7.62x64 is strange in the sense that t is an old rimmed ctg , and duplicates the .06 or .308 , or a host of others . as far as ballistics goes it would be best that you think of it as nothing more or less than a .308 with commercial loads . Patch ammo would be fine for vermin up to cyoute stage. and soft point for deer or antelope or elk or for that matter bear would be fine ... just think of it as a " rimmed" .308 and you wont go wrong.
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    I had heard it was quite reasonable - sure hope so as I bought 2 x 800 round sardine cans some months ago!!!

    I can't remember the cost very well - but seem to remember it was an attractive price - with shipping I seem to think $150 was about it, all in.

    As for corrosive or not - not sure tho would probably treat it as such. I'll find out soon when I shoot some up but am currently finishing off some very old stuff - one of which was that one I posted a pic of ...... all split to heck!
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    Got to checking out my Czeck stuff - which as I said was two cans. I had only opened one but looked at the other and got the stuff outa the can.

    Two quite different styles interestingly ... and yet to test either. Next Sunday should have a chance at a shoot. My previous batch I am finishing off seems to show as '87 and just has a ''3'' on opposite side of headstamp. (My older stuff still - split case - showed '45 and opposite was ''188'')

    Decided to take pics of the bulk Czeck stuff .... and it'll be apparent that the ''brass'' color cases with plain uncolored FMJ's is the '84 stamped - plus red primer seal. The other is what you may be referring to as silver tips - stamped here '68 and somewhat green laquered like Wolf 7.62x39 used to be.

    Both have ''BXN'' and this I guess is linked to country of manufacture but these two batches obviously from different sources tho. Haven't yet pulled samples to check bullet weight - and not sure of significance of the silver/white tip version bullets.

    Sorry about pic quality - my camera has just come back from having a new CCD fitted and all my old manual settings were lost - so poor color balance and not as sharp as should be.






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    Thanks.

    From what I'm reading the silvertip denotes a carbine load. Expect it to shoot high - at least this is what mine does.

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    From what I'm reading the silvertip denotes a carbine load.
    Guess the ideal would be to chrono both. Could be the non tip color would be best in 91/30.
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    P95,,,

    bxn is "Sellier & Bellot, Prague, Czechoslovakia, Factory in Zbrojovka Vląsim"

    I was bored. LOL.

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    bxn is "Sellier & Bellot, Prague, Czechoslovakia, Factory in Zbrojovka Vl&#224;sim"
    Good bit of sleuthing Leonard - thank you
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    Thanks to Joshua and to Leonard for those tidbits of information. I have several hundred rounds of the 'brass' cased 7.62X54R and I think the cases are actually "copper washed" steel. No, I do not know what that means! Nice to know Sellier and Belloit makes some of the surplus ammo.
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    the cases are actually "copper washed" steel
    Copper washing is kinda' like painting them with copper. You know how you'll have, say, a CCI .22 bullet that's covered with copper, but it's not copper plated? That's copper washed. I believe it's more for lubricating properties than anything.

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