November 27th, 2007 02:45 AM
Federal HST 124gr. for me
December 4th, 2007 04:28 PM
Barnes bullets make a cooper ,JHP -bullet Same as DPX Corbon that consistly expands & reaches your desired target! Here's a link to Barnes site where you can not only order ammo but you can apply for a FREE DVD titled Bullet Myths!
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December 10th, 2007 12:39 PM
Might very well be. All I know is the gun always did like 147 grainers.
Originally Posted by mojust
I was chompin at the bit to shoot the HST's and when the first three rounds bullseyed that target I was again at peace. Barrel be darned everything about this round so far is proving the old adage that those heavy bullets wouldn't expand wrong. I feel the manufacture has overcome that with this round.
When seconds count, police are only minutes away!
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December 13th, 2007 08:33 PM
December 13th, 2007 08:41 PM
If I carries a 9mm it would be with +P 115 GR. DPX.
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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December 16th, 2007 08:00 PM
The following loads all demonstrate outstanding terminal performance and can be considered acceptable for duty/self-defense use:
Barnes XPB 105 & 115 gr JHP (copper bullet)
Federal Tactical 124 gr JHP (LE9T1)
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
Winchester Partition Gold 124 gr JHP (RA91P)
Winchester Ranger-T 127 gr +P+ JHP (RA9TA)
Federal Tactical 135 gr +P JHP (LE9T5)
Federal HST 147 gr JHP (P9HST2)
Remington Golden Saber 147 gr JHP (GS9MMC)
Speer Gold Dot 147 gr JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 147 gr JHP (RA9T)
I currently carry Ranger-T 124gr +p in my G19 and PM9. Here's why:
10% Ballistic Gelatin tests for:
Winchester Ranger T 9mm 124gr. +p
4 Layers of Denim
Round # 1:
Recovered Weight: 123.0 gr.
Expansion*: .690 cal.
* Expansion measured at widest point.
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December 25th, 2007 09:59 PM
What's the difference between these two Federal 147g loads?
Aren't the Hydra-Shock and HSTs the same?
December 25th, 2007 10:08 PM
I 've been using winchester white box personal protection 147 grain in all
my autos; glock 17,26 and my truck gun sigma.It shoots well and reasonably
December 26th, 2007 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Wasabi
They are not the same. Hydra-Shocks are the older design with the post in the middle. HSTs are a new design and seem to be one of the best out there.
Here's a link to a test someone did of various 9 mm rounds:
Here's another test:
There is also the test done by a member on this forum:
And another one by the same person:
(Sorry if some of these links are repeats. I haven't read this whole thread.)
I'm certainly not saying HSTs are the absolute best, but they always fare well. They are my choice in my .45, and will be when I start carrying a 9mm.
December 26th, 2007 10:55 PM
Thanks for clarifying the differences with the Hydra-Shocks and HSTs.
Looks like I'll be another guy using the 147g HSTs for my PM9. Are they usually cheaper than the Hydra-Shocks like in the links I posted?
December 27th, 2007 12:19 AM
I don't know about price. I've only bought the .45 version once. I'll be buying some 9 mm soon.
December 31st, 2007 09:19 PM
Here's are three Federal Tactical HST police department test results - Impressive stuff and some interesting reading...
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/ has this ammo in stock.
I carry the P9HST3, which is +P 9mm.
January 1st, 2008 12:34 PM
hey slimjim ,no hornady's ? actually i dont see hornady tap mentioned much or at all for that matter. i think they are a premium ammo. beside price ,which is right on with any of the above mentioned ammo , why dont any of you guys use there bullets ? i am a new pistol lover. shotguns have been my hobby for years. now im in a pistol friendly state and am learning slowly but surely. i have a ruger sr9 and a glock21 ,not the sf. i stocked up on hornady 147gr. hollow points ,you know with the black nickel coated jackets. i notice that 124 gr is used much more by everyone. i dont question the lower wieght bullet but why not hornady? federal , corbon , magsafe , winch , are used by all. WHY NOT HORNY'S
January 1st, 2008 12:44 PM
Hornady is Fine
Hey, I have almost 1,000 Hornady JHP 45's I'm savin' for a rainy day. Fine round. I don't carry a 45 much anymore, tho.
Originally Posted by mike310
Former Army Infantry Captain; 25 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
January 1st, 2008 12:58 PM
oh ok ,thanks sir. i know its a good brand i just thought there might be a reason why it is not mentioned with the other 4 or 5 premium brands.
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