How Effective is the 40 caliber handgun in stopping a lethal threat?
This is a discussion on How Effective is the 40 caliber handgun in stopping a lethal threat? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; A couple of years ago, I put a .40 SXT into the front center chest of a pit bull that wanted a piece of me ...
December 15th, 2007 12:18 PM
A couple of years ago, I put a .40 SXT into the front center chest of a pit bull that wanted a piece of me to gnaw on. I was standing on a porch, and the dog was lunging at me. (picture the angle of that shot)
The dog went straight down, yelped a couple of times, and that was it. DRT.
I'm comfortable with the .40.
December 15th, 2007 12:21 PM
I think you'll find the .40 is just about 10% less (ballistics) than the .45 ---- unless you load it with Magtech Guardian Gold 155 JHP. That round flies at 1205 fps and packs energy at 500 ft./lbs. at the muzzle. Most .45 is in the high 300's to low 400's for energy. For that matter, the Magtech Guardian Gold for the .45 packs a whallop too - the 180+P flies at 1148 fps and has muzzle energy of 540 ft. lbs. Expansion on both is awesome! I have both calibers but prefer my .45.
Ballistics aside, other's points are spot on - CONFIDENCE AND PLACEMENT. My wife does better with my 1911 than my .40 as the .40 has a snappier recoil than the 1911.
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December 15th, 2007 12:45 PM
Nothing wrong with a .40SW
Here's my biased ranking of SD calibers ( I have guns chambered in all these).
-SIG , it's What's for Dinner-
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December 15th, 2007 12:53 PM
A .40 is definately adequate with the right operator behind it.
December 15th, 2007 01:06 PM
I prefer 9mm or .45, but I wouldn't have a problem with .40 either considering it's the caliber used by LE in the area.
December 15th, 2007 01:24 PM
Here is what I carry in .40 Sig P239 SAS DAK trigger w/lasermax
I am not afraid of the dark with it
Kobra Carry | HK
P7M8, P2000sk, P30s | Sig
P238, P239SAS, 1911 C3, P232, P938 | Colt
Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 | Rohrbaugh
R9 | Kimber
Covert Ultra II | Browning
HP, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed| Walter
PPK(1966) | Kahr
PM9 Black Rose |
December 15th, 2007 01:48 PM
In auto pistols I think the .40 would be an acceptable alternative to the goodness that is the .45 ACP. I don't think as highly of the 9mm.
December 15th, 2007 02:04 PM
Then you're well motivated.
Originally Posted by Cat-O-Matic
Plenty of folks have been stopped by 9mm on up. By far, the greatest factor is going to be what you do with it. So long as your choice means you'll have it with you, you're effective with it, you are comfortable and well-trained with it, then it should be sufficient. Like anything else in this world: ain't no guarantees. Get a good tool, then work it until you know for a fact it'll do what you need it to do. Then, and only then, you can be assured it is sufficient for the task.
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self defense (A.O.J.).
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the number of victims?
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December 15th, 2007 10:51 PM
IIRC No 2 and No 4 are buck. It's certainly what I was thinking of when i refered to buckshot earlier.
Originally Posted by Maverickx50
Don't mess around with birdshot. It's not going to be effective. No 2 buck or No 4 buck is the way to go. Some like to move up the buckshot scale to 00 and 000, but it seems No 4 or No 2 is the best balance.
December 15th, 2007 11:49 PM
Sorry to tell you this my friend, but it ain't true.
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
December 16th, 2007 12:02 AM
.40 is great for home defense. You get a round with a good amount of power in a platform that allows you a good amount of capacity in a smaller handgun. Which is pretty much why I settled on it. Rather good power and performance (check some ballistics sites, etc) in a handgun that doesn't have to be huge to achieve a large capacity of rounds.
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December 16th, 2007 09:02 AM
.22, .380, .38 special, 9 mm, .40S&W, .45 ACP..... they will all work. Just remember the "three S's" Shot placement, Shot placement, Shot placement. A good hit with a standard velocity .38 is a lot better than string of loud misses from a hi cap .40 anything! A handgun with a full size grip and a 4" or 5" barrel is easier to hit with than someting smaller. Only hits count.
December 16th, 2007 10:00 AM
Hopefully the enemy only knows 90 percent of the Marines -the last 10 percent the enemy does't know is what has defeated the Marines enemies time and time again-as proven by history!
Originally Posted by SammyIamToday
December 16th, 2007 10:46 AM
Doesn't matter, shot placement is king
- know the difference
is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
December 16th, 2007 11:53 AM
The 40 round is what I use for HD needs. Higher capacity then a 45 and more punch then the 9mm IMHO so a perfect round.
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