9mm = 9mm+p?

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    9mm = 9mm+p?

    I have a 9mm (luger) as my regular handgun. I just got a new one, and it's a 9mm +p. Will any harm be caused - to me or the gun - by using my standard 9mm in the 9mm +p gun?

    What to do??

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    Regular 9mm Luger aka 9x19 aka 9mm Parabellum is fine to run in a +P gun.

    More exact details of what guns you're talking about would be a big help.

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    9 mm is weaker than a 9mm +p so its a non issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Regular 9mm Luger aka 9x19 aka 9mm Parabellum is fine to run in a +P gun.

    More exact details of what guns you're talking about would be a big help.
    I know very little about different ammo at this point - I only know 9mm luger and my 7.62x39 for my AK.

    Anyway, the 9mm+p is the Browning Hi-Power discussed earlier in another thread, I believe you responded first and gave me the model! Thanks :)

    But my standard gun is a Baby Eagle 9mm.

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    Ahhh gotcha'. As Bud stated, +P is a higher pressure round, giving it more velocity than a standard 9mm.

    Almost all modern guns in 9mm will handle +P, and are usually marked as 9mm only hence the confusion.

    For a second it almost sounded like you may have had a 9mm Luger (the gun, not the caliber) that's why I wanted the clarification.

    The 9mm Luger (the cartridge, not the gun) is the 9x19, 9mm Parabellum, and you also have 9mm NATO.

    Then you have 9mm Kurtz which is the 9mm short which is actually the .380 ACP...

    Confusing isn't it.

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    Does it say +P or just P? In your last post you said "9MM P" with no +.

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    I guess it makes a difference doesn't it? It says "CAL. 9M/M P."



    As far as the 100 versions of 9mm, wow!

    So, I have a 9mm luger/9mm NATO/9mm Parabellum (Baby Eagle). That's good to know for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Does it say +P or just P? In your last post you said "9MM P" with no +.

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    baby eagle will shoot +P and depending on how old the Browning is it will probley shoot +P too

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    Ok, the P is for Parabellum most likely as I believe someone dated your Hi-power as a 60s vintage, and IIRC the 9mm +P didn't come out till later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Ok, the P is for Parabellum most likely as I believe someone dated your Hi-power as a 60s vintage, and IIRC the 9mm +P didn't come out till later.
    Oh, so it's just a plain old 9mm luger essentially like my baby eagle??? It's 1966 D.O.M.

    That's a lesson learned....With both of your help, I now know the basics of 9mm ammo

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    In discussing the various 9mm rounds no one has mentioned 9X18 which is the Makarov round. Another place where the round and a pistol have the same name. It is a bigger problem than Luger. Many similar pistols list Makarov as the ammo and people think that it is the Makarov pistol. Really confusing.

    JD saw this before I did and I agree with him the P on your pistol stands for Parabellum. Just in case anyone is interested, the Parabellum name comes from ancient Latin saying si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Then you have 9mm Kurtz which is the 9mm short which is actually the .380 ACP...
    Kurtz was the Colonel in the movie "Apocalypse Now" played by Marlon Brando.
    Kurz is the word for "short" as in 9mm Kurz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ispcapt View Post
    Kurtz was the Colonel in the movie "Apocalypse Now" played by Marlon Brando.
    Kurz is the word for "short" as in 9mm Kurz.
    You're right, my German is a little rusty.

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    The Browning High Power is a wonderful pistol. A classic! Seems to me that I read somewhere that High Powers are best limited to standard pressure 9X19 ammo. Personally, I don't regard that as a handicap. (And remember, your High Power has a full length barrel which maximizes velocity anyway).

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