.38 or .38+p for Girlfriend?

.38 or .38+p for Girlfriend?

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    .38 or .38+p for Girlfriend?

    My girlfriend has been doing fairly well with her new S&W 642 CT with light .38 loads. Problem...she has extensive left hand damage from a machine accident, basically only has her thumb and index finger, making a proper Weaver pull impossible. She can use her left hand for support, but that's about it. Before I invest in expensive +p ammo, do you guys think it would be too hot for her? Should I just stick to quality .38 special hollow points for defense? Thanks!
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    Well, I would say to get one box of something in about the power range you're thinking of and try that out. And it's worth more than just a cylinder full, because it may be a matter of working on her technique to the point that the hotter rounds are managable, and it's worth the price of one box of ammo to see if she can handle some better defensive loads. If the hot ammo is too much trouble, then she is definitely better off with lighter loads she can control than hotter one's she can't, of course.

    Also, you could have her try something more like an isoceles grip, which has both arms pushing forward rather than the push/pull tension of the Weaver. The lack of fingers pulling on the support hand wouldn't matter as much there. If you are curious about this, check out Ayoob's StressFire pistol book for a thoroughly good explanation of the grip and stance for this type of hold.

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    You can get a box of WWB 125gr +P pretty cheap and let her try that.
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    Thanks guys. I've never shot .38 +p's, just how much more recoil is there? She's awkward with the Isoceles stance, but we should probably work on it more.
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    I really can't tell a difference between +P's and regular 38's. Might be a little more muzzel flip with a snubbie, but not much.

    My wife shoots 38+P's from her Taurus 605 and she can't tell a difference between them and regular 38's either.

    You can see if she can handle one armed Point Shooting follow the link to Fairbarins original training manual.
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    You're going to hate this answer, but I would buy a box of the +P's and a box of the non +P's.

    Then have her shoot from the low ready, 5 rounds in 5 seconds at 5 yards. The load she can keep in 5 inches is what she should carry. It may take a little practice, but for myself, I don't like anything lower than 38 Special +P for self defensive purposes.

    With that said, my Mom can't shoot the +P's anymore. So we load non +P's in her gun. You will have to find what works for her, not what works for me, you or Joe Blow down the road.

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    My wife shoots +P's in her 4" .357 mag. with no problems. I switched a few regular .38's in there (without telling her) and she just kept shooting and didn't notice the change. I can't tell the difference and I was sure she would. I was wrong! Have her try both and see what works best for her.

    Kazza has a good point - try changing styles. That should help!
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    The difference with +P is 20%. That's unlikely to be a deal-breaker.

    If you're worried about recoil, I'd try Corbon DPX. It's light bullet reduces the recoil, despite the high pressure and velocity. It's all-copper bullet seems to be pretty reliable at both penetrating and expanding.

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    My wife can barely tell the difference. But her gun is a 2" 327 - out of my 442 .38 +Ps feel a little hotter...I'd get both for her to try.

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    .38 or .38+p for Girlfriend?

    In the case you decribe, I'd stick with regular .38SPL.

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    Any experience with Federal's Self Defense Low Recoil rounds with the small Hydroshock bullet?
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    Is she left or right handed? If right handed, I see no reason why she shouldn't be able to handle +P loads.
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    Try them both out.

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