Any lawyers out there? Legal question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruit
    I'm still debating if I should use any kind of HP for my Bersa .380 because I'd heard it's not powerful enough to reliably expand...
    My take is that expansion is at best ''iffy'' - and so I have my wife's Bersa .380 stoked with Fed FMJ - I feel that is just as effective, even more feed-reliable and I don't think over penetration is such an issue at this power level.
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    I am also an attorney and basically agree with Erich. Even if we located a case where the use of reloads was used or not used against the shooter, it would not necessarily be binding on the next case since these are facts and circumstances types of issues usually decided on a case by case basis. Since you can never know with certainty what the attitude of the police or prosecutor will be in a given shooting, the best advice is, if possible and practical, to do nothing that could prejudice your position, including use of reloads.

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    I am not an attorney, but I have talked at length with relatives who are; the consensus is why tempt fate? As two previous posters, who are attorney's have stated, anything can be brought up to cast doubt on your intentions as a result of shooting someone in self defense. The advice I received, both from attorneys and from instructors is first and foremost, use either the same type of ammunition or use ammunition as close as possible to the ammunition used by your local law enforcement agency. Secondly, retain several rounds in the original packaging of the ammunition you have loaded, for testing should the need ever arise.

    So, in my case, whenever I load out my magazines, I ensure that I retain a few rounds of that lot number in the original packaging. When I fire that ammunition, I replace it all with new. I've gotten anal enough that I do not mix lot numbers in the same magazines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawker45 View Post
    I am not an attorney, but I have talked at length with relatives who are; the consensus is why tempt fate? As two previous posters, who are attorney's have stated, anything can be brought up to cast doubt on your intentions as a result of shooting someone in self defense. The advice I received, both from attorneys and from instructors is first and foremost, use either the same type of ammunition or use ammunition as close to the ammunition used by your local law enforcement agency. Secondly, retain several rounds in the original packaging of the ammunition you have loaded, for testing should the need ever arise.

    So, in my case, whenever I load out my magazines, I ensure that I retain a few rounds of that lot number in the original packaging. When I fire that ammunition, I replace it all with new. I've gotten anal enough that I do not mix lot numbers in the same magazines.
    That's a good idea and I might do that if I ever get into reloading HP's for carry. They can always take it apart and see how "hot" you load the rounds.
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    I only carry stock equipment for this reason.

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    I dont understand why anyone would want to carry anything that was questionable. Ammo's too cheap to risk it. Use re-loads for practice and carry the lagit stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by robere View Post
    I dont understand why anyone would want to carry anything that was questionable. Ammo's too cheap to risk it. Use re-loads for practice and carry the lagit stuff
    It shouldn't even be an issue. That's my problem with the whole thing. The only thing that should matter is whether or not a shoot was justified. Period.

    I might start carrying reloads out of principle.
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    remember their lawyer is not on your side they will use anything to get a bigger paycheck, that is why you have a lawyer.
    anything can be used agaist you depending on the creativity of the lawyer.

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    For my CC I use Federal's EFMJ in .45 caliber. The box is labeled For Personal Defense or Personal Defense Ammo. I feel if someone wants to get technical about it that this would be in my favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyIamToday View Post
    It shouldn't even be an issue. That's my problem with the whole thing. The only thing that should matter is whether or not a shoot was justified. Period.

    I might start carrying reloads out of principle.
    I agree that it should not be an issue, but, unfortunately, that is not the reality we have to deal with. I certainly respect any decision you might make to carry reloads out of principal, but please do understand what the consequences to you and your family might be.

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    Of course it shouldn't be an issue but I've heard of someone - while breaking in to a home - getting injured, falling or something and sueing the homeowner. Go Figure that out....
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    In Texas its a moot point,if you are justified to shoot the BG,there is no civil relief for his family,they can't sue you for a shooting that was justified and you are no billed by a grand jury
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrobert1 View Post
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    This is on topic how? You claim to be in Bangladesh, why do you need a criminal lawyer in Boise?
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