Winchester Whitebox.

[BlueLion]

Pulled the 1911 out to check it and wipe it down. I noticed that a round was somewhat bent(bullet head not round but bent in slightly). This round was not chambered but was positioned down in magazine. I am not feeling too good about the Whitebox Hollowpoints and I think I will just shoot them all up and swith to the Gold Sabres. What do you guys think, I think it is a quality problem.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[Euclidean]

WWB is okay if that's all you can get for the moment and it's also good for testing how hollowpoints will feed in your gun. But eventually I get something top shelf for carry ammunition.

[Bud White]

WWB is ok for Range stuff but i wouldnt depend on it for my life .. Seems quailty has been slipping down hill lately

[gregarat]

I only use white box FMJ from as practice ammo (Gota love Wallyworld ). I use top shelf for carry.

[BlueLion]

Thanks guys, good advice.

[acparmed]

Just remember that you have to shoot a couple hundred rounds of that "top shelf" ammo to be sure how reliably it works in your gun. Some guns are just plain finicky when it comes to a certain bullet shape or design.

[Tangle]

Just remember that you have to shoot a couple hundred rounds of that "top shelf" ammo to be sure how reliably it works in your gun. Some guns are just plain finicky when it comes to a certain bullet shape or design.

. +1 .

[P95Carry]

I get the impression with WWB that there may be issues with bullet/case retention.

Whether neck tension a bit lacking or perhaps there is no taper crimp applied - anyways does seem it is best kept for range practice work for which on a budget it does serve pretty well.

I think we have to pay the necessary premium to have to best carry ammo.

[CLASS3NH]

I only use white box FMJ from as practice ammo (Gota love Wallyworld ). I use top shelf for carry.

I bought that WallyWorld 45 stuff. I shot it thru my Colt Defender and YUK, it started to have FTF on the third mag load. I took the gun apart and found it to be filthy with powder residue. It looked like I had been using Wolf ammo in the gun. I then field cleaned it, and used the Federals I had, thinking it was a defective weapon. I had no trouble with it after it was cleaned and ammo was switched. I think I'll stick with Federal ammo for target use, and the God Dots for carry.

[LenS]

Some of these reports do NOT track recent experiences by myself and other "students". I took a Randy Cain and two Gabe Suarez courses this Summer. Many of us used WWB from WallyWorld and nobody had any problems that were either discussed or came to the attention of others during these events. The total rounds fired by myself were in the 1600 range and there were 20 students in Randy's class and 14 (IIRC) in Gabe's courses.

I've also fired ~1K of WWB .40 and another ~1K of WWB .45 in practice with no problems and no excessive dirt. Guns used were the Walther P99 .40 and S&W 1911 .45.

[KC135]

Shot enough in 9 and 45 to know there is no ammo problem. WW white box is good ammo.

Would not feel underarmed with the white box WW 45ACPJHP.

[CombatEffective]

I've had the dented thing happen with more than one Federal Hydrashok in .40SW.

[CLASS3NH]

The stuff that gummed up my Colt was the 230 gr target type load........
I was pretty surprised to see this happen, but it did. Maybe a bad batch at the loading machine? maybe, maybe not.

[srfl]

My agency uses Winchester's (alleged) WinClean 165 grain .40 S&W BEB (brass enclosed base).....I say alleged because cleaning the barrel of brass streaks in my duty Sig (or any other gun I fire that round in) is a pain to clean.

I noticed just today that one of the rounds in a box of 50 of that same ammo must have slipped it's case retention; the bullet was seated A LOT deeper than the rest in the box.....I removed and segregated the round from the box.

[OD*]

Strange indeed, I've never had minutes problem with white box.