Frangible ammo for CQC shooting?

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    Frangible ammo for CQC shooting?

    As some of you might have already read, I will have my own shooitng range in my back yard in about 6 weeks. My concern now is ammo.

    For longer distance, regular .45 ammo will suffice. But what about close quarters shooting at steel plates withing 4 or 5 feet?

    I have been doing some reading about "frangible" ammo, as it disintegrates upon impact on hard objects such as steel plates.

    Am I right in thinking this is the right kind of ammo to use, or is there something else that will work but is cheaper. I have noticed frangible=expensive.

    Or is that just to unsafe a range to shoot at anyway?

    Thanks guys/gals!
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    Thats awful close no matter what bullet you are using. Why not use paper plates or similar? Lead cast bullets might be best, but I would worry about fragments coming back .
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    They don't let us shoot our 16's at steel any closed than like 50 yards (not a .45, but still).

    For that close of shooting I would definately be wanting to punch paper, and not much else (balloons are good if you want a reactive target). Even wood at that range can send splinters back at you that hurt.

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    Four or five feet is too close to be shooting steel, even with frangible ammunition. Use paper targets at those type of ranges.

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    Paper or cardboard is a good idea.

    The only reason I even considered steel was for the instant feedback that the sound generates.

    Just thinking that plastic might work also. Just cut up some milk jugs and staple them to the cardboard. It might not be loud enough, but I could give it a try.
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    IDPA doesn't let you use steel closer than ten yards, and we get plenty of tinkling metal off the back wall at that distance. If anything, it seems to me with frangible you would be more likely, not less, to get backsplash.
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    Do not shoot steel plates that close with anything or you could get a darwin award,there would be sufficient ricochet to seriously injure or kill you
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    Lead free frangible from handguns, despite being safer, is best kept at 3 yards and beyond. I second the 10 yard mark for using non-frangible ammunition.
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    Yes use cardboard or paper targets if you are going to be practicing CQC drills. Like everyone else has said, steel plates will still ricochet tiny metal fragments back at you.

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