Federal .45 ACP 185gr +p

This is a discussion on Federal .45 ACP 185gr +p within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I went to the range this morning. I shot a 30 round bullseye course with my G23 .40SW. I did well. Next I shot my ...

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 16

Thread: Federal .45 ACP 185gr +p

  1. #1
    VIP Member Array NY27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    2,387

    Federal .45 ACP 185gr +p

    I went to the range this morning. I shot a 30 round bullseye course with my G23 .40SW. I did well.

    Next I shot my G30 .45ACP. I shot to the right a good bit. So I adjusted the rear sights and was dead on. I was using Federal 185gr +p loads that a friend had given to me. No sense buying ammo when I had some already.

    It actually didn't feel too bad while I was shooting it. I went through 100 rounds. Then I shot my 23 again and it felt like a little .22. So I guess those Federal +p loads are pretty hot. I actually spread out my grouping a little bit at 25 yards with the 23 due to the fact that my hand was shaking just a little bit from the .45s.

    I know that I will get good COM shots with the +p loads in my 30. But is it really necessary? I was considering maybe just getting some Speer GD 230gr for the 30.
    Police Defensive Tactics, Firearms, Carbine Rifle and Taser Instructor
    Glock Armorer
    NRA Life Member
    It is better to have your gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
    You cannot choose the conditions for a gunfight, so train in all conditions!

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Senior Member Array SilenceDoGood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    774
    IMO, +p and +p+ loads are NOT necessary.
    "A government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master." -- George Washington

  4. #3
    Senior Member Array Rmac58's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Hopewell, Va
    Posts
    682
    Quote Originally Posted by SilenceDoGood View Post
    IMO, +p and +p+ loads are NOT necessary.
    I'll agree, especially in a .45.

  5. #4
    Member Array 1911packer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    420
    I wrestled with standard pressure v. +P when deciding on carry ammo for my 1911.
    Looking at the Federal HST 230gr, +P offers an additional 60FPS and 57 foot/pounds.

    While that doesn't seem like much, since handguns are the weak sisters of firearms and the .45 is marginal when it comes to HP velocity, I went for all I could get.

    In the HST, the price is the same, my 1911 is rated for it and recoil is not much different, so why not?

  6. #5
    Member Array dsonyay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    73
    That particular round is rated very good in gun tests a few years back.
    I think Ed Sanow (sp??) wrote a good book about stopping power and mentioned this round at some point. It's a hottie alright.
    David
    from LA


    I have 5 guns.

  7. #6
    VIP Member Array NY27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    2,387
    I was just wondering if the +p was necesarry for the .45ACP. I think that I could shoot longer of I use standard loads.

    I still do use +p or +p+ loads in 9mm. In my G19 I carry either Speer GD 124gr +p or Fed Hy Shok 115gr +p+.
    Police Defensive Tactics, Firearms, Carbine Rifle and Taser Instructor
    Glock Armorer
    NRA Life Member
    It is better to have your gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
    You cannot choose the conditions for a gunfight, so train in all conditions!

  8. #7
    Member Array billfromtx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    South Texas
    Posts
    361
    for CCW or hunting...
    +P's in 45 are NOT necessary.
    +p"s in 38 or 9mm are manditory!
    in my humble opinion
    USMC 1984-1992
    To err is human.
    To forgive is divine.
    Neither of which is Marine Corps policy.

    "It's all about shot placement."- David (Slayer of Goliath)

  9. #8
    VIP Member Array crzy4guns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    2,637
    +P's in 45 are NOT necessary.
    +P's in 38 or 9mm are mandatory!

    Agreed.
    God bless our troops!

  10. #9
    VIP Member Array obxned's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    OBX, NC
    Posts
    2,655
    I like the +P in .45s with less than a 5" barrel. It gives back the velocity that your compact gun lost with its shorter barrel.

    In 9mm, I would not use anything less than +P, and if the pistol will handle it, +P+.
    "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Place on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

  11. #10
    Senior Member Array Rmac58's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Hopewell, Va
    Posts
    682
    IIUC, a faster .38 round will not do more damage than a standard .38, or do I have the wrong impression?
    How about a HP .38?
    This is for stopping power, right?
    Unless you're shooting through something first, right?

  12. #11
    Member Array billfromtx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    South Texas
    Posts
    361
    [QUOTE=Rmac58;716866]IIUC, a faster .38 round will not do more damage than a standard .38, or do I have the wrong impression?
    QUOTE]

    Velocity and weight equals ENERGY...which translates into tissue damage and stopping power.
    USMC 1984-1992
    To err is human.
    To forgive is divine.
    Neither of which is Marine Corps policy.

    "It's all about shot placement."- David (Slayer of Goliath)

  13. #12
    Member Array 1911packer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    420
    Quote Originally Posted by crzy4guns View Post
    +P's in 45 are NOT necessary.
    Why not? As wonderful as the .45 is, it is still a handgun, falling far short of the performance of most rifles and even the .357.

    For me, the +P is the same price, I can put rounds on target just as effectively as with standard pressure and it gives me a bit more velocity to help with the expansion and penetration.

    If there has been any improvement in Mr. Browning's excellent design in the past 100 years, it has been the production of 1911s that can reliably handle +P hollow points. So, why not take advantage of the improved ammo?

    I'm just curious as to what I'm missing here.

  14. #13
    Member Array Dusty Miller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Escalon, CA
    Posts
    335
    Quote Originally Posted by Rmac58 View Post
    IIUC, a faster .38 round will not do more damage than a standard .38, or do I have the wrong impression?

    The .357mag shoots the same bullet and I believe it is a superior stopper due to a bullet velocity in the 1200+ fps range.

  15. #14
    Member Array 1911packer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    420
    I'm not wanting to be argumentative or be a smart a**. I REALLY want to know the downside to carrying .45 +P. It might change my mind.

    I can see the problem with a lightweight firearm or for someone who is recoil sensitive.

  16. #15
    New Member Array Siddigger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1
    This is my first quote so take it with a grain of salt. Nothing will expand in a .38. I feel accuracy is paramount and do not want to go through the house next door. You only want to hit your target. 3 accurate shots are better than one +P any day. That leaves +P out for me in any caliber. I carry lead flat nose SWC in my light weight .38 if not carrying my .45 commander. You can talk all you want about speed, energy and power. That does not take into account a slower flat nose's immediate on the spot energy transfer in real world. Shoot a cat with 22 hollow points. Better have a box handy. No sound of a hit. Shoot it with a lead flat point ( I have a jig and file, but there is SGB by CCI but it is not as flat as I like ) You hear the loud smack (neat) and it drops.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. FEDERAL TACTICAL BONDED 9mm. OR FEDERAL HST
    By The Fish in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: July 24th, 2012, 02:02 PM
  2. Corbon 185gr. +P ammo
    By Sneaky in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: December 17th, 2009, 05:29 PM
  3. Is WWB .45 185gr Brass different than .45 230gr?
    By glock45 in forum Reloading
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: February 18th, 2009, 09:50 PM
  4. HST +P 230gr vs. Hydra-shok +P 185gr in 4"?
    By unrequited in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: January 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM
  5. Difference between 230gr and 185gr
    By Timmy Jimmy in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: September 12th, 2006, 12:09 PM

Search tags for this page

.45 acp 185 gr p loads
,

45 acp federal hydra shok 185 grain p

,

45 acp p 185 gr loads

,

45 acp p ballistics

,
federal 185 gr .45 acp
,
federal 185 p
,

federal 185gr p

,

federal 45acp hydra shok 185

,
federal hy shok 45acp
,

federal hydra shok 45 acp 185gr

,

federal premium 45 acp 185 p

,
velocity 185gr p hollow points federal
Click on a term to search for related topics.