Which would you choose and why?

Which would you choose and why?

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  • Speer LE Gold Dot 124 grn +P 9mm

    43 61.43%
  • Winchester Ranger Talon 124 grn +P 9mm

    27 38.57%
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    Which would you choose and why?

    I am going to start carrying my Kahr CW9 soon and I can't decide which ammunition I want to carry in it. Either Speer LE Gold Dot 124grn +P or Winchester Ranger Talon 124 grn +P. Both are about the same price so price is not an issue. So, which would you choose and why?

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    I carry Gold Dot 124gr standard pressure.

    I chose Gold Dot because of past reliable performance.

    I like standard pressure rounds out of my autos
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    I carry the Winchester 9mm 127 +P+ in my Glock’s, and while it does have more noticeable recoil, (still on the mild side) the performance in testing puts it in 357 range.

    I chose your Winchester over the Speer because Speer LEO bullets jam in my Walther, so I carry the Winchester T’s 380 in it, as well as the Kel-Tec P3AT.

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    Winchester 9 mm Luger +P+ (127) Ranger™ ‘T’ Series

    Symbol: RA9TA - Winchester Ranger™ ‘T’ Series

    Shellcase: 9 mm Luger +P+ nickel plated brass shellcase with cap lacquer.

    Bullet: 127 grain, reverse tapered jacket.

    Jacket Weight: 28% of total bullet weight.

    Powder: Low flash, clean burning.

    Primer: Winchester non-corrosive primer.

    Accuracy: Product mean of 1.25” Extreme Spread - Five 5-shot targets at 50 yards from a SAAMI standard 4” test barrel.

    Velocity: 1240 ft/sec nominal at 15 ft. using a SAAMI standard 4” test barrel (1250 ft/sec muzzle velocity).

    Muzzle Energy: 440 ft-lb.

    Pressure: Maximum average pressure of 40,000 CUP.

    Penetration: 10” minimum in calibrated bare 10% ordnance gelatin.

    Bullet Upset: Must exhibit 6 uniform radial jacket petals when fired into bare or clothing barriered calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin.

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    Speer LE Gold Dot 124 grn +P 9mm
    They always work in my Glocks. I've been carrying these ever since I discovered there was such a thing as defensive loads. No good reason to change now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post

    I carry Gold Dot 124gr standard pressure.

    I chose Gold Dot because of past reliable performance.

    +1. My K9 eats them like potato chips and accuracy is excellent.

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    Just put in my order for Speer Gold Dot ammo...
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    Which feeds more reliably in your gun?

    Which is more accurate in your gun?

    Which costs you less?

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    Couldn't vote. I Don't use +P 9mm ammo. I use Speer 124 grn standard pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellCT View Post
    Which feeds more reliably in your gun?

    Which is more accurate in your gun?

    Which costs you less?
    I don't know yet and cost isn't an issue as they are about the same price.
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    I use the Ranger T's because I have them and it is a great SD ammo. However I would not hesitate to use the GDs as they are also top notch and may be a little easier to get.
    The NYC police use the GDs.
    So you folks buy up the GDs and leave the T's for me.

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    I don't use +P rounds, Gold Dot 124 grn standard pressure. More accurate in my P9 than anything else.

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    Gold Dot +p because it feeds well in all my 9s. Gun shows around here have them for $20/50 and I've got a bunch. Never tried the Win load but either one that feeds well and shoots well would probably be fine. Chronographs 1121 fps out of 3.1" barrel and 1200 out of 4".

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    I use Gold Dot +P's in my G34 & 92FS; mainly because the local gun shop carries it.


    It's good stuff.
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    I'd buy a box or 2 of each, shoot them and determine which one your gun likes best. Doesn't matter how awesome the round is if your gun won't shoot it accurately or it malfunction with it.

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    I have used Speer Gold Dot in the past and I have complete confidence in them. They are always a good choice for any self defense gun.
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