Difference Between Remington & Remington UMC Ammo?

Difference Between Remington & Remington UMC Ammo?

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    Difference Between Remington & Remington UMC Ammo?

    Remington/remington umc anyone tell the deference the ballistics are the same price is cheapper on rem umc thanks in advance h/d


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    Thread title changed.

    Remington UMC "Green Box" is Remington's economy line, like Winchester "White Box" is that company's economy line.


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    UMC is goverment contract stuff and always FMJ.

    Thats what I was told by a guy that works the Remington ammo factory in Lonoke.
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    I have found that Remington UMC's economy ammo is cheaper for a reason...potential primer problems...OMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    UMC is goverment contract stuff and always FMJ.

    Thats what I was told by a guy that works the Remington ammo factory in Lonoke.
    Nope.

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    Thanks cvHoss .357 sjhp balistics same Wheel gun no primer problems!

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    Union Metallic Cartridge Company:

    Shotshell Cartridge History
    Union Metallic Cartridge Co. (UMC) was originally formed to provide firearms and ammunition to the Union Army during the U.S. Civil War. UMC was reincorporated in Bridgeport, Connecticut in 1867. UMC began to sell unloaded brass shotshells in 1868, which is said to be the first commercially available shotshell in the USA. Twenty years later, in 1888, UMC began to sell loaded shotshells.
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    In 1888, Winchester and UMC jointly purchased Remington, a manufacturer of firearms and ammunition. Eight years later, in 1896, UMC purchased Winchester's share of Remington, and then UMC was the sole owner of Remington. In 1933, DuPont acquired 60% of UMC and Remington. In 1980, DuPont purchased the remaining stock in Remington, and Remington then became a wholly-owned subsidiary of DuPont.

    In 1970, Remington began making ammunition in a new plant in Lonoke, Georgia and Remington closed its historic plant in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
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    Just the projectile and cost.

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    Maybe he meant that the stuff they built for the Government was FMJ.

    I've never seen anything around here in UMC that wasnt FMJ.

    They must sell the good stuff to yall up north.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post

    I've never seen anything around here in UMC that wasnt FMJ.

    They must sell the good stuff to yall up north.
    I have 2 Wally World special UMC 100 round value packs in .45 ACP 230 grain JHP.

    'Course I am up north.


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    I've shot 38spl and 357 Magnum by Remington's UMC line of ammunition.
    UMC definitely has some types of hollow point in both 38 special and 357 Magnum (not just FMJ) . UMC is the economy line of Remington as was pointed out eralier. Their FMJ 38 spl (L38S11) is clean, somewhat weak but good for practice. For your info, the 125 semi-jacketed hollow point in +P 38 spl (L38S2B) burns rather dirty and makes an enormous muzzle flash. Interestingly, the 357 Magnum 125gr SJHP does not suffer from this issue and was quite powerful, too (L357M1B).

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I have found that Remington UMC's economy ammo is cheaper for a reason...potential primer problems...OMO
    Used to use UMC for plinking, but always had a couple fail to fire with each box. Switched to Winchester white box and problem went away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogdaddy View Post
    Remington/remington umc anyone tell the deference the ballistics are the same price is cheapper on rem umc thanks in advance h/d
    One difference that I have noticed in 9mm Remington UMC and other brand FMJ rounds is that the bullet in the Remington UMC is inserted about .5 to 1mm more into the cartridge or it is shorter. However, I find no difference in shooting reliability. Do a close comparison and you will see what I am talking about.

    No one has ever been able to explain the difference.

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    I have used it with no issues at all. Ran it through my 1911 and it just loved it! I have also used the .223 with no issues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAtrigger View Post
    I've shot 38spl and 357 Magnum by Remington's UMC line of ammunition.
    UMC definitely has some types of hollow point in both 38 special and 357 Magnum (not just FMJ) . UMC is the economy line of Remington as was pointed out eralier. Their FMJ 38 spl (L38S11) is clean, somewhat weak but good for practice. For your info, the 125 semi-jacketed hollow point in +P 38 spl (L38S2B) burns rather dirty and makes an enormous muzzle flash. Interestingly, the 357 Magnum 125gr SJHP does not suffer from this issue and was quite powerful, too (L357M1B).
    That's strange, I just bought two boxes of 38spl L38S11 and fired it at the range a week or so ago. The ammo was very accurate, however seemed very heavily loaded. The recoil was equal to any 38spl +p and the muzzle flash in the snubby was unreal. (slow burning powder perhaps?)

    It wasn't too bad in a 6" barrel, but still had some muzzle flash, which is not usually the case with Winchester ammo. All in all, I was shocked at both the power and muzzle flash of the stuff, and somewhat suprised by the great accuracy.
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