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38 special round

This is a discussion on 38 special round within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I inherited an older Model 12 S&W, 38 spl recently. But I can't use +P loads in it due to it's aluminum frame. Can anyone ...

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    38 special round

    I inherited an older Model 12 S&W, 38 spl recently. But I can't use +P loads in it due to it's aluminum frame. Can anyone recomend a good non +P SD HP round to use in it? Everywhere I have looked only offer +P loads for HP's and FMJ. Thanks
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    i have federal 110gr non +p fires just fine its the wifes gun low recoil

    Try some of the gun shows coming through your area for defensive rounds but for range i use wwwb 130gr works good enough for me

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    Like OrlandoDriver, if I had to choose a non +p, I would choose the Federal 110gr. hydra-shock.

    Based only on what I have read,(which is quite a bit) the test results show that velocity is sufficient for expansion in most cases, and the tradeoff is that to get the velocity the round is lighter and thus penetrates less. Probably not a big factor unless you are dealing with a side shot that has to pass through an arm to get to the body cavity and organs.

    Or, perhaps one of these standard pressure offerings from BuffaloBore:

    http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunitio...htm#standard38

    A second thought: Is it a 2" or 4" Barrel? That might make a difference in my choice. There may be heavier bullets that will gain enough velocity to reliably expand in a 4" barrel. For the two inch barrel, one of the above would be my choice.
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    .38 Spl

    There are only a few standard .38 loads available for defense use. The Hydra Shok, the Winchester 110gr Silvertip, the 125gr Remington JHP, and the Buffalo Bore 158gr LSWCHP. There are also 2 standard loads from Magsafe and Glaser. Of them all the Hydra Shok is the most common and available. The Buffalo bore is special order only and I personally have no experience with it. The Remington and Winchester are backordered every time I try to get some, and the frangibles are pretty expensive for a special order. I personally prefer an expanding bullet, some do not and are happy carrying a 148gr wadcutter or a 158ge Semi-wadcutter, just not for me.

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    Doesn't Speer put out a Gold Dot 135 grain that is tailored for the normal pressure guns? If I ever run out of my Nyclads, I thought I'd try that.
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    I'd be looking at the 158 SWC. Expansion is going to be iffy in most standard velocity .38 HP rounds anyway, so I'd take the weight for penetration.

    That, and it's probably the load the sights are regulated for.
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    Buffalo Bore 158gr LSWCHP

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    Quote Originally Posted by B52 View Post
    Buffalo Bore 158gr LSWCHP
    If I were going to use a standard pressure 38spl round the BB 158gr LSWCHP would be my choice too.

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    Thanks to all for the input and it is a 2" barrel.
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    I'll add another plug for the Buffalo Bore fodder.


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    Buffalo Bore 158 gr lead SWC HP.
    Remington and Winchester made that same config as well.
    It's what I carried for years as a lawman.
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    2" barrel, I'd go with the 110 grain for vilocity and expansion. Google it and see what you come up with. I found the 110 grain to come out on top.

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