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    Would you be willing to give up some of your rights

    New findings from FBI about cop attackers and their weapons

    This article came up in a thread regarding what type of bullets BG us. Very interesting read, and freighting to know BG are not only carrying quality handguns but are also being trained by ex-military, and practice more than most LEO's.


    My question is this: In an effort to make it hard for convicted felons to purchase ammo, would you be willing to give up some of your rights to allow the Government to require ID and a background check prior to buying ammo?

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    No. Considering the background check did not stop them from obtaining the gun in the first place, what would make you think it would stop them from obtaining ammo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    No. Considering the background check did not stop them from obtaining the gun in the first place, what would make you think it would stop them from obtaining ammo?
    That about sums it up for me too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    No.
    Ditto.

    If you want to stop the BGs from shooting cops, then make the courts quit turning them loose. I have to imagine that one of the most frustrating things for a cop is to see the guy you just arrested a few weeks ago back on the street.

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    Two words for you...... Black Market.
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    A couple of interesting items in the report:
    In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows. What was available “was the overriding factor in weapon choice,” the report says.
    Researcher Davis, in a presentation and discussion for the International Assn. of Chiefs of Police, noted that none of the attackers interviewed was “hindered by any law--federal, state or local--that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership. They just laughed at gun laws.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    A couple of interesting items in the report:
    In contrast to media myth, none of the firearms in the study was obtained from gun shows. What was available “was the overriding factor in weapon choice,” the report says.
    Researcher Davis, in a presentation and discussion for the International Assn. of Chiefs of Police, noted that none of the attackers interviewed was “hindered by any law--federal, state or local--that has ever been established to prevent gun ownership. They just laughed at gun laws.”

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    I will never understand why people think that making more laws will solve a problem caused by current laws not being obeyed.

    Insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.
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    because liberals know the will believe anything that is put in front of them. the politicians and the media know the will buy into anything that's "for the children" or "for your own good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    No. Considering the background check did not stop them from obtaining the gun in the first place, what would make you think it would stop them from obtaining ammo?
    +1 to that. I agree.
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    I agree, if criminals ignore all the current laws, what good will a new law be other than to further restrict the rights of the law abiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    No. Considering the background check did not stop them from obtaining the gun in the first place, what would make you think it would stop them from obtaining ammo?
    + 1........Kerbouchard says it plain enough
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    New law will do nothing but hender the honest gun owner. With the courts the way they are, a criminal caught trying to buy ammunition would get nothing more than a slap on the wrist anyway.
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    Neither one of your options applies to me. An ID check for ammo would be totally useless. Are you going to restrict what type of ammo that BG's can buy or all ammo. Right now we have restrictions on under 18 buying handgun ammo but I doubt that it stops anyone from getting what they want.

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    Not "willing" to give up any of my rights no matter what. Don't listen to propaganda.

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