December 5th, 2005 11:03 AM
Need some advice, please
Last weekend prior to shooting at the range, I stripped all my Hydra-Shoks from the magazines for each pistol. Then I refilled them with WWB 230 gr. ball. After I finished I realized that I had a ďbrain fartĒ. I had just mixed 165 gr. Hydra-Shoks with 230 gr. (Hydra-Shoks) I figured I could weigh them but the conversion Iíve got is 1 grain = 0.0648 gram, hence 65 grain = 4.212 grams. I donít reload so the scale available to me isnít accurate enough. Plus the weight difference is so small that any difference in powder charge between the 2 loads might be so significant that they might weigh close. Any ideas, what would happen if the ammo is mixed? I shoot a Kimber Custom CDP II, Colt Commander, Para Tac 4, and Taurus PT145. Or should I just schedule a range session to burn this ammo. I really donít want to spend $ 100.00 for defensive ammo just before Christmas.
Last edited by FrontSight; December 6th, 2005 at 09:37 AM.
December 5th, 2005 11:15 AM
the " hometown" gunsotores in my area would certinly let you weigh out the rounds if you asked , prob. yours will too , with that being said unless you have seen a major poa / poi shift in the firearms you will use the ammo in at defensive distances ( unlikely imho ) i wouldnt be concerned with just loading up till i could afford to roll out the ammo for fresh
December 5th, 2005 11:39 AM
Actually FS - I think with this discrepancy between the two bullet weights - weighing should do the trick! I had some 9mm reloads a ways back with an improper powder charge - and weighing nearly sorted those out - looking for just a coupla grains IIRC. In fact in the end I pulled em all anyways!
65 grains in powder terms is a lot!!! So anyone who has a beam scale or electronic weighing deal could pick these out real quick. Another way could be to make a simple balance for yourself - take a piece of something convenient like hardwood strip (6" long maybe) - make a ''V'' notch as close to center as possible then - perch it on edge of a knife in a vice - if not balancing, shave wood off heavy end until it is equal. Make marks just in from each end and test for adequate accuracy with penny on each - if it is all but balancing then proceed to put ammo on.
So, try some tests with ammo - if you put two rounds on - one each end and the beam quickly drops for one - that'll be the 230. If beam barely drops then you have two of same with only minor variation.
Just a thought -
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December 5th, 2005 01:28 PM
P95, why didnít I think of that? Iíll use a triangular file and make my balance scale from some molding that I have for a project coming up. Iíll pick a round at random, use it as a standard, and compare it (with others) until there is a difference. If itís the heavier, mark it as 230 gr., or vice versa. I should end up with 20 rds. of 165 gr. and 60 rds. of 230 gr. Thanks!
December 5th, 2005 01:41 PM
Seems to me the easy way to differentiate between the 230 gr FMJ and the 165 gr HydraShoks is to look at the rounds. The ones with the big hole in the end are the HydraShoks......
December 5th, 2005 01:52 PM
Matt, Both are Hydra-Shoks!
December 6th, 2005 09:21 AM
I kinda read that wrong also.
when he said WWB mixed in with the hydra-shocks but i get it now.
i too thought "look fot eh one with the BIG hole in teh front...but i understand the issue now.
he first post left me scratching my head.
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December 6th, 2005 09:40 AM
Y'all are right, my original post was somewhat ambiguous so I edited it. What can you expect from someone educated in Alabama? Sorry!
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