Best 9mm load for animals?

Best 9mm load for animals?

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    Best 9mm load for animals?

    If you were limited to 9mm only what would be the best ammo for 4 legged dangerous animals?I'm thinking maybe double tap flat point,yes or no?thanks.sj


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    FMJ...other then that....

    IDK, but make the 9mm a subcompact, will make it easier to take it out when the bear shoves it...


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    Let's define "4-legged dangerous animals".

    Stray, aggressive dogs? Deer? Wild boar? Grizzly bears?

    The 9mm is not designed to be a hunting cartridge, and I personally would not want to rely on it to stop a "dangerous animal" anything bigger than about 100lbs. If you're going to use 9mm as a back-up gun for hunting, etc..., I would go for the deepest-penetrating rounds you can find, to ensure that your shots will be able to reach vital organs. Shot placement will be critical.

    I would consider trying to find some hot-loaded FMJ. Also look at one of the "deep-penetrating hollowpoint" designs like DPX.

    Just my two cents.

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    I was thinking more like packs of dogs,something that size.sj

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjones View Post
    I was thinking more like packs of dogs,something that size.sj
    9mm hollowpoints of modern design (HST, gold dot, Ranger, TAP, etc...) are reasonably well-proven man-stoppers (when put in the right place, anyway). I'd imagine it would perform just as well against a man-sized animal, provided it doesn't have a particularly thick hide.

    Basically, any 9mm round that's sufficient to stop a raging human, should have very similar effects on a dog or dog-sized animal.
    Much bigger than that, and I'd be looking to a larger caliber for sure.

    Having said that, I know of an individual that took a 200+ pound wild hog with a .380 ACP. Shot placement.

    Again, just my two cents; I've never shot an animal with a handgun, so take my advise with a grain of salt

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    Most dangerous four legged critter in the woods around here would probably be rabid or a coyote trying to attack my sheltie or collie. I carry a 16 shot FNP9M loaded w/DPX.....when I'm not carrying a 45.

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    Shot placement is the key. But just in case be ready to move away and regroup for another shot. No Pistol is a good as a rifle. Most places frown on packing a rifle around the subburbs. Personally I would use the same ammo that I would use for humans. If I had time to change to different type of ammo for the animals then I would also probably have time to get a rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Zaria View Post
    If you're going to use 9mm as a back-up gun for hunting, etc..., ...I would consider trying to find some hot-loaded FMJ.
    That's illegal in most states.

    I plan to take a white tail this year with a Winchester 230gr JHP.
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    In Washington State, you can hunt with a 9mm if the barrel is 5 inches or longer. All hanguns have to have at least a 5 inch barrel and have a caliber of over .24 for large game.

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    The XTP is a great penetrator.
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    9MM LUGER+P SILVER 80 GR. 1500 FPS/ 399 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY SLUG or the 9MM LUGER+P 100 GR. PB 1450 FPS/ 467 FTLBS POW'RBALL

    Corbon ammo is pretty good stuff reguardless what type of fur bearing animal you intent to ventilate.
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    Just leave the 9mm on your hip and carry a 12ga with 0 or 00 buck in your hands. Anything larger than a human calls for slug loads.

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    Some of this and a hi-cap mag would be a good option!

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    If your just thinking of shooting a dog or coyote, then what ever your carrying for self defense should be fine. If your counting on it to stop a 200 lb man surely it will stop a 50 or 100 lb dog. So if your happy with your current ammo choice stick with it, no need to muddy up the waters with keeping one clip for canines and one clip for people.

    If your wanting to shoot something bigger than a dog, then get a .357 or a .44 mag or some other hunting caliber handgun and use it.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    When we lived in Alaska, the best bet for wild animals with a 9mm would be an expensive pair of track shoes and a 'slow' friend.

    Maybe a large dog with 9mm, but anything bigger coming down on you is just going to become more angry because you have put welts on his face.

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