Old ammo...
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October 2nd, 2008 09:01 PM
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Old ammo...
So my dad is letting me borrow his old Colt 38 special six shooter to take to the range. He wants to give me his box of ammo, but it's roughly 35 years old. Is it worth it to try and load? I'm cleaning the pistol up but I don't know anything about old ammo. It's Remington or Winchester he said not sure which. What do ya think?
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October 2nd, 2008 09:11 PM
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It's not worth risking a classic Colt to save $15 bucks or so. It's more likely they will squib than blow up the gun, but a squib can still be the cause of a disaster. Tell him thanks for the ammo, get rid of it, shoot some good stuff, clean his gun when you're done, and get him a new box of ammo.
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October 2nd, 2008 09:28 PM
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Depends on how it was kept for those 35 years. If there's no visible rust, or white spots and they don't look crusty, I might try them. To be ultimately safe....I'd save them if in the original box for a tale to tell your grand kids, or dispose of them. If they were .357 magnum loads, I wouldn't even try them.
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October 2nd, 2008 09:51 PM
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Thanks guys. They've all been kept in the box with the styraphome and look ok, but I'm no expert. My initial reaction was to just not use it and buy my own box so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being too picky.
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October 2nd, 2008 11:17 PM
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I routinely shoot 60 year old ammo with no issues. If properly stored, the stuff lasts a long time.
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October 16th, 2008 12:50 AM
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I routinely shoot 60 year old ammo with no issues. If properly stored, the stuff lasts a long time.
I don't have anything 60 years old, but i've shot .30-06 i found from the 50s/60s. I recently came across several hundred rounds of 40+ year old .45 ACP that i shot through my SA Mil-spec, and not a single round FTF or FTE. Granted, these were all stored very well, and just to be certain i wiped it all off with a clean, white, lint-free cloth to be sure.
Ammo, if stored well, would theoretically last forever. the powder and primer won't go bad, it's just damage from the environment you should worry about.
I'd shoot it.
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October 16th, 2008 07:17 AM
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I have shot 1000's of rounds way older than me. I believe 1945 or 1946 was the oldest I can remember.
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October 16th, 2008 08:46 AM
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It's not worth risking a classic Colt to save $15 bucks or so. It's more likely they will squib than blow up the gun, but a squib can still be the cause of a disaster. Tell him thanks for the ammo, get rid of it, shoot some good stuff, clean his gun when you're done, and get him a new box of ammo.
Ammo will NEVER blow up the gun just from being "old". If anything it will not fire, I would doubt you would even get a squib. If moisture had entered the case at all it will not ignite. The thing you need to make sure of is that it is factory ammo and not an old hand load from someone. If you are sure it is factory, go ahead and shoot it without worrying too much. The worst that will happen is it will not go bang!
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October 21st, 2008 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
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It's not worth risking a classic Colt to save $15 bucks or so. It's more likely they will squib than blow up the gun, but a squib can still be the cause of a disaster. Tell him thanks for the ammo, get rid of it, shoot some good stuff, clean his gun when you're done, and get him a new box of ammo.
That's some damned good advice.
Squib or not, I wouldn't even chance using 35 year old ammo.
Thank him, toss the old ammo, buy some new rounds from the post-Nixon era, and take it back to your Dad after a thorough cleaning with some new ammo.
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October 21st, 2008 11:23 PM
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I've shot 30+ year old stuff, and it always seemed to 'go pow' just fine.
If it looks like is was stored correctly...I would try it, but then I've lived most of my life already...
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October 21st, 2008 11:27 PM
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Gunpowder does not increase in explosive power with age so your gun would not explode. Nor does it lose power with age. If the rounds have not been exposed a lot of moisture, which would be readily evident.
If you are worried don't use it. But it will in all likelihood work fine. Folks buy and shoot military surplus ammo on a regular basis. Much of it older than what you Dad has.
If you do buy a new box do not get +P. The is a greater chance of the gun not handling the +P than there is in the old stuff causing problem.
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October 21st, 2008 11:40 PM
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I just fired off some ammo thru colt .38 that was appx 25 years old with out a problem.
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October 22nd, 2008 12:48 AM
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35 year old ammo don't get more powerful it either goes bang or it don't,I would shoot it and take along a new box in case it has problems,if the discharge sounds light or no recoil,open cylinder and inspect barrel for obstruction repeat as necessary
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October 22nd, 2008 08:32 AM
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Not to hijack, but I have a loaded WW2Thompson magazine that has aparantly been loaded with steel case .45ACP since the war. What a good test that will make.
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October 22nd, 2008 08:40 AM
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Not to hijack, but I have a loaded WW2Thompson magazine that has aparantly been loaded with steel case .45ACP since the war. What a good test that will make.
Except that isn't considered "Stored Properly", unless that magazine was kept in an ammo box, or some other device to keep it healthy.
The muzzle end of a .45 pretty much says, "Go Away" in every language.
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