+P in the 1911's???

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    +P in the 1911's???

    Ok my wife and i both carry kimber 1911's i carry a 3 inch barrel and she carry's a 4 inch barrel i occasionally carry a full size 1911 also.
    i just ordered a case of federal hst 230 grn and noticed they had +P also should i buy a case of that and carry that instead?

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    It's all a matter of preference, the +P will give a little more velocity, but that means a little more recoil, I don't mind it at all in the 5" guns, it's OK in the 4" gun, but I don't care for for running a lot of +P in the 3" 1911s.

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    I only carry a 5" 1911, so my opinion may be biased.

    I carry the Federal HST 230 Grain +P JHP because of it's better barrier penetration capabilities and increased effectiveness. When I say increased effectiveness I am referring to it's ability to stop a threat RIGHT NOW!

    All handguns, and loads, are marginal at best. As good as the reputation of the 45 ACP is, it's not that good when compared to a Rifle or Shotgun. I am aware of one tacital response team that used the non +P HST load and they were not impressed with it's performance in real life shootings. They then switched to the 230 Grain +P and the complaints, as well as the badguys shot with it, stopped.

    The big question is, can you shoot it? Do you lose too much for the little gain it gives you? I myself would not want to shoot the +P load in anything other than a steel 5" 1911, if that tells you anything.

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    What is the gun rated for? You may have to ask the factory, but a steady diet of +P ammo will cause faster wear on any gun. I would suggest standard ammo for practice and +P for defense and infrequent practice.
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    I carry federal HST 230+P in my 3.5" 1911
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    I believe that all of the Kimbers can handle as much +P as you care to run through them without a hitch.

    In fact I really can't think of any decent 1911 that I would hesitate running .45acp +P through except maybe the Chas Daly or Essex 1911s - due to their cast slides.

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    TAP +p for carry and light loads for practice. Although I did do some testing with +p at my range. Worked just fine. This is in a Kimber Custom II 5'

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    I practice with standard factory practice loads in both of my 1911's one is a 5" the other is a 4.25". Then carry the HST +P loads for defensive use. When function checking the guns with the +P I had no problems with either gun. POI was the pretty much the same with both loads.
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    I generally stay clear of +p in my 1911. I like low velocity and mass punch. papa

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    I prefer standard pressure quality 230gr ammo out of my 5" and 3" 1911's, faster follow up's.
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    I use standard 230 grain ammo in mine. Gold Dot's, Rangers or HST's
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    I use standard pressure ammo in my 1911 EB only. No need for +P.
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    I use 185 Golden Sabres in my Commanders and shorter 45. The lighter bullet screams out of a short barrel. 230+P HST or Ranger in my 5 inchers.

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    +1 for HST 230 +P in my 5" 1911. I like the way it shoots and don't mind the slight recoil difference. The real question is will your 3" run reliably and be easy enough to shoot with +P ammo.

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