I use Gold Dot 155, it has higer velocity so it transfers more energy than the other two until you get to about 50 yards.
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I use Gold Dot 155, it has higer velocity so it transfers more energy than the other two until you get to about 50 yards.
I looked at the data for lighter .40cal bullets and you are looking at M/V, energy near the 357Sig, I will try to rustle up some data later.
+1 on the Cor Bon 135 Grain
+1 See above 1325 FPS at 526 FP
I was just posting on another thread about the FBI's Firearm Training Unit Research publication, Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness. It is a very good read.
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I would look at the following rounds:
Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140)
Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T)
Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA)
Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P)
Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355)
Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961)
Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962)
Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3)
Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1)
Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1)
Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
All the above have been tested by Dr. Roberts and passed the FBI testing. Now you must figure out what what you like to shoot, what you can afford to shoot, and what your carry firearm likes to shoot. I would test 200-500 rounds and expect zero problems.
I'm a bit extreme in the fact that not only do I test function of the round in my carry weapon, but I use my shooting chrony and do shoot into BG (I use gelatin innovations).
I ran a search and low and behold, this thread is what I had planned to ask.
I am new to the .40 round, but after feeding 100rds through my USPc I am in LOVE. I shot Blazer 180gr and didn't notice any of the excessive muzzle flip most complain about .40s having.
Would going to a lighter load with more velocity serve to make for a more pronounced/snappy muzzle flip?
I was going to purchase some Ranger 180gr rds as I carry them in my other carry guns (9mm +P and .45 +P), but then got to wondering how important that muzzle energy is and if I would be doing myself a dis-service by opting for the heavier 180grain loads.
The reason I am leaning towards 180 is that I was dead-nuts on with the practice rounds through the USPc...exact point of aim is where my shots were landing and obviously would want to replicate that confidence in a SHTF situation.
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I use 165 gr for SD and either 155 or 165 for target practice. Tried 180 gr and didn't like it.
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Ten Simple Rules of Life as a Gunfighter:
#2: Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.
#10: Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
Duty, Honor, Country...MEDIC!!!
¡Cuánto duele crecer, cuan hondo es el dolor de alzarse en puntillas y observar con temblores de angustia, esa cosa tremenda, que es la vida del hombre! - René Marqués
It's hard to find a "bad" load in .40 S & W.
Posted by R.E.Lee:I like the 180's because it seems to give me less muzzle flip too. It also seems to shoot POA/POI in my Browning. I'm changing the sights this week, so I'll have to see if the 180"s still shoot POA/POI. If they do, I'm sticking with them. If not, I've got a case of 155 grain JHP's from Federal I can put in the gun.I am new to the .40 round, but after feeding 100rds through my USPc I am in LOVE. I shot Blazer 180gr and didn't notice any of the excessive muzzle flip most complain about .40s having.
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couple weeks ago I did jus tthis experiment. I got a box of 155 and 180 grain HSTs (.40). I couldn't tell the difference. I used a Glock 27 and Sig 229. I shot equally well/bad with either and didn't feel a difference even when loading a magazine alternating the two. Both shot reliably.
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I suppose the best way to determine the answer to this is to take a preferred brand, and test all the weights they offer in ballistics gel at point blank, 3 feet, 6 feet , 12, and 21, chart the results and see what you get.
If the final result is w/i an inch of each other, then you are down to how any particular weight feels when you shoot and how accurate you are with that round.
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Thanks Guys!
I might end up restocking with both 165 and 180 practice rounds. Just to see what fits me better.
Ten Simple Rules of Life as a Gunfighter:
#2: Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.
#10: Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
I have been shooting WWB 180's through my Kahr CW-40.
Flawless during the breakin period.
I had a FTE after loading my first mag full of Speer Gold Dot 165 it was on the 5th round. So now I am going to be testing various HP ammo for reliability. I was at the end of shooting 100 rounds when I swithced to the Gold Dots so I am hoping it was me that was the problem.
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Kahr CW-40
I would carry the 155 if I had a choice.