Street Record of .357sig ammo?
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I have just purchased a Sig sauer 229 with . .40 caliber barrel(single action ,double action trigger). I am considering purchasing a .357sig barrel. ...
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November 22nd, 2008 08:16 AM
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Street Record of .357sig ammo?
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I have just purchased a Sig sauer 229 with . .40 caliber barrel(single action ,double action trigger). I am considering purchasing a .357sig barrel. I have tried to find data on this rounds effectiveness in the streets by LEO but only found the many different agencies using .357sig ammo. Does anyone know how effective this ammo is & where I might find more data on this ammo?
Thank-you for your input.
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November 22nd, 2008 08:16 AM
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November 22nd, 2008 08:37 AM
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Interesting article on the .357 sig
HandGunInfo.com: 357SIG: 357 Sig and 9mm Comparison
There is a ton of info out there on this round. I am a big fan of it.
Lots of folks do not like the .357 sig because of its perceived recoil and bark. Yes it is a little different - more of a snap than heavy recoil. The one BIG difference is how LOUD the round is. Its report is much greater than the .40 and some will associate the noise with recoil. It is an easy round to control and by no means uncomfortable to shoot.
If it were my P229 the first thing I would look for is a .357 barrel.
Here is a good place to start: Sig Forum classifieds
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November 22nd, 2008 09:13 AM
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Interesting article on the .357 sig
HandGunInfo.com: 357SIG: 357 Sig and 9mm Comparison
There is a ton of info out there on this round. I am a big fan of it.
Lots of folks do not like the .357 sig because of its perceived recoil and bark. Yes it is a little different - more of a snap than heavy recoil. The one BIG difference is how LOUD the round is. Its report is much greater than the .40 and some will associate the noise with recoil. It is an easy round to control and by no means uncomfortable to shoot.
If it were my P229 the first thing I would look for is a .357 barrel.
Here is a good place to start: Sig Forum classifieds
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Wow! There's plenty to read in the article you posted!
Time to get another cup of Java and read more of this .357sig article.--Thank-you very much.
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November 22nd, 2008 01:50 PM
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A friend of mine is a forensic ballistics specialist with the VSP, and he said it has proven to be very effective. The VSP have stayed with the round longer than with any other since they stopped using .357 Mag revolvers. I think sticking with it for over a decade says something.
Richmond Police have been satisfied with it, too. Like any handgun round, the key will always be shot placement, though. There is nothing truly magic about the 357 SIG. Federal and SIG set out to reproduce the ballistics of the .357 Mag in an semi-auto cartridge, and they succeeded. Double Tap makes a 357 SIG cartridge that is identical, ballistically, to the 125gr .357 Mag load.
There are a lot of 9mm folks who seem almost "threatened" by the existence of the round, and feel compelled to dismiss it. There are some 357 SIG folks who speak of it as if it has magical properties. It is my round of choice, because I like the way it performs. It is a flat shooter, very accurate out of a good platform, very consistent, and with a good bullet design, provides optimal penetration and performance. Funny how all these caveats apply to every other effective caliber, too.
ETA: The 9mm, .40 and .45 command a much larger share of the market, and most statistics focus on those. I haven't seen any current statistics available on 357 SIG performance in the real world. I go by the fact that so many agencies have chosen (and stuck with) this round, when they could choose a less expensive cartridge. There must be a reason.
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November 22nd, 2008 02:26 PM
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We all have our favorites and mine too is the .357 SIG.
I think many shooters have stayed away from it somewhat because of cost of the ammo and that there are a lot more 9mm & .40 S&W guns out there. It's hard to find WWB ammo at Wal-Mart.
It is even often hard to find a specific gun in .357 SIG. The manufacturers don't build as many as they are mostly used in LE.
But what does that tell you when it is the choice of many LE agencies? Seems like a good choice to me for CCW....
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November 22nd, 2008 03:02 PM
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I have a 357 barrel I use in my Sig P226 , and I actually
find the recoil to be less than a .40 S&W 180 gr.
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November 22nd, 2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by
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...I think many shooters have stayed away from it somewhat because of cost of the ammo and that there are a lot more 9mm & .40 S&W guns out there. It's hard to find WWB ammo at Wal-Mart.
It is even often hard to find a specific gun in .357 SIG. The manufacturers don't build as many as they are mostly used in LE...
True, and yet, there are full-size, compact and even some sub-compact models available, and pistols from SigArms, HK, Glock, Springfield, S&W, Browning, and Steyr, and more manufacturers are adding 357 SIG pistols to their line.
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November 22nd, 2008 04:36 PM
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One of the best carry guns I own is a Glock 32 in .357 Sig. Exactly the same size as the G19 and 23. For less than $100 you can buy a 9mm conversion barrel that just drops in. Add a couple of G19 mags and you can shoot for half the price. With ballistics matching a .357 Magnum, it is one great defensive load!
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November 23rd, 2008 01:40 AM
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My 357Sig barrel for my 229 should be here next week, picked up some Remington green box FMJ at $30 a box of 50, then quickly went to order some dies calibre for this before my wallet goes empty.
Looking at the Lee book I notice that they don't have a load for Titegroup, any thoughts on why?
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November 23rd, 2008 07:47 AM
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November 23rd, 2008 07:49 AM
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Excellent caliber; very accurate. My current nightstand gun is my SIGARMS sig pro SP2340 in 357 SIG.
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November 23rd, 2008 08:59 PM
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that's all interesting to hear.
i have never shot the 357 sig but i would like to try it after reading this.
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November 23rd, 2008 11:10 PM
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I've gone to this round at the advice of a neighbor who is a retired Fed.
I have:
1. Sig 229
2. Sig 226
3. Glock 32C
4. H K P2K.
I carry the P2K on a day to day basis.
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November 23rd, 2008 11:37 PM
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Virtually the same ballistics as a .357 Mag, with minimal recoil. Awesome!
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November 24th, 2008 08:52 PM
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I carry the .357 SIG in my Sig Sauer P-226. I absolutely love it! It is laser beam accurate, and the recoil feels very light to me. When I go from shooting my Sig to my friend's XD-40, I feel the recoil much more in the XD, the XD's recoil feels like a snap, while the .357's feels like a rearward push. It has a great track record with Texas DPS and other agencies who says it has the "lightning bolt effect" of their old .357 Magnum wheelguns. Now the negatives. It is loud, which might scare new shooters . It is bright, which might scare new shooters, and might be a negative in a night-time tactical shooting environment. Lastly, it is expensive, roughly $25 per 50 rounds of WWB at Wally's, and $21 per 20 rounds of Speer Gold Dots at a Las Vegas gun store.
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