Ammunition 'going off' by itself
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November 27th, 2008 03:04 AM
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November 27th, 2008 03:36 AM
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Ammo isn't going to go off by dropping it, or squeezing it, or any other method other than the primer being struck. There's simply nothing to cause it to do so. Your friend is afraid to walk by ammo on the shelf. Has your friend heard of a lot of gun stores or Walmarts catching on fire because ammo exploded? Your friend is either gullible or nuts!
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November 27th, 2008 03:47 AM
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Simple answer, no, it will not go off just from handling it. Even if it does go off for some reason, the bullet will not be propelled like it was fired from a weapon.
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November 27th, 2008 07:02 AM
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Soldiers keep 100s of rounds on them in magazines...and they jump from planes, climb up and down mountains, and conduct urban operations in Iraq and Afghanistan...
I have yet to see anyone killed from dropped ammunition...and I guarantee, ammunition gets dropped everyday...single rounds, cases, pallets, etc.
It's the uncleared chambers...i.e. "I thought the gun was empty"...that kill people.
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November 27th, 2008 07:04 AM
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Agreed, the only thing that would set it off is landing perfectly on a grain of sand or other protrusion large enough to dent the primer, and then I don't know that the round will have enough kinetic energy to do so.
If it does manage to succeed, I have no idea what will happen, what kind of force the projectile will have, etc.
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November 27th, 2008 07:18 AM
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Send all your ammo to me for safe keeping, careful it might go off!!!
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November 27th, 2008 07:50 AM
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Well, as in any other possibility, it could happen...
...but in it would be after a monkey could accidently type out the Declaration of Independence when given a keyboard...
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November 27th, 2008 08:49 AM
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I saw a picture of a round that when off in another box of ammo that was sitting on the table at the range. An ejected round hit the primer of a loaded round in the open box. The rim hit the primer just right. All the round did was blow up the case in the foam. The bullet itself still sat right where it had been when the case blew up. Didn't even put a dent in the table. From what I saw in the picture, rounds went everywhere. Only the one that was hit went off. Your friend is a little paraniod.
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November 27th, 2008 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Well, as in any other possibility, it could happen...

...but in it would be after a monkey could accidently type out the Declaration of Independence when given a keyboard...

My trunk monkey took exception to that, he's not happy!
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November 27th, 2008 09:02 AM
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Over the years I've dropped a lot of cartridges......in all sorts of calibers....& never have any 'gone off'....I still flinch when I drop 'em though.......
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November 27th, 2008 09:46 AM
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November 27th, 2008 09:50 AM
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If you dropped a "centerfire" cartridge, it would have to land *perfectly* to strike the primer and ignite the powder.
HOWEVER ...
If you drop a "rimfire" cartridge, all bets are off. The primer on a rimfire cartridge is in the rim and if even the edge of the casing is struck, the primer *could* ignite the powder. Tell your freind to "walk softly" around rimfire shells. 
Example:
When I was a young boy, I left a handfull of .22 shells on my dresser in my bedroom and a couple of them rolled off onto the carpeted floor and I didnt know it. My mother vacuumed my bedroom one day and sucked them up into the vacuum cleaner and .. *BANG* Thankfully, she had an old Kirby vacuum with a metal head on it and the bullets stayed inside so never left the confines of the vacuum. It taught me a huge lesson and am thankful nothing serious happened other than my posterior gettin a tan. 
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November 27th, 2008 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Over the years I've dropped a lot of cartridges......in all sorts of calibers....& never have any 'gone off'....I still flinch when I drop 'em though.......

Can you yell "FIRE IN THE HOLE!" in time and jump for cover?
Now that the coffee has kicked in, my local IDPA shoots on primarily gravel. At the end of each stage/string, drop the mag, eject the chambered round (9 out of 10) times onto the ground from mid body height. That 10th time either the SO catches the round, or the shooter covers the ejection port and it drops into the shooters hand.
Have not had a bang yet.
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November 27th, 2008 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Has anyone ever heard of ammunition simply exploding?
...but my friend is absolutely convinced and hes afraid of even walking by ammo on the shelves in wally world because hes afraid its going to go off and shred him...

Maybe the guy's a loony on the left that believes everything he sees and hears. Have you asked him if he frequents the Brady Campaign or Joyce Foundation websites?
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November 27th, 2008 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Maybe the guy's a loony on the left that believes everything he sees and hears. Have you asked him if he frequents the Brady Campaign or Joyce Foundation websites?

Barring that, the only other reason I could think of is a lack of knowldge.
Many people are uneducated in regards to bullets and what they and the launching devices they spring from are capable of. I'm certainly no exception, and learn something everytime I view the forums or read a magazine. I certainly don't know everything. In fact, you could put my knowledge in a thimble, with plenty of room to spare.
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