.38 vs. .380 The battle of the mouseguns!

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    .38 vs. .380 The battle of the mouseguns!

    What do you think would be a better man stopper? The .38spl+p from a 2", or a .380 from a Walther style handgun?

    Heres another question for the .380.
    Would I be better off using ball or, hp?
    I thought ball might be better cause it penetrates more than HP, without over penetration.

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    round for round i feel that 38sp +p would be the better stopper, that being said I will still carry my walther ppks over any snub revolver because i am both more accurate and faster shooting with it . Reloads are a lot simpler with auto , and i carry ball ammo in it . i look at it as a mousegun that works because of the accuracy , a fiew shots in the face will buy time to leave the area , i wouldnt consider it a decisive stopper tho as far as killing trama goes. personaly i would say pickup a subcompact 9mm and stoke it with +p or +p+ and you will be better off

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    personally i would say pickup a subcompact 9mm and stoke it with +p or +p+ and you will be better off
    Oh yeah a 9mm is way better, no doubt. I was just curious about the .38 vs .380. I realize that neither is a real manstopper.

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    What do you think would be a better man stopper?

    Neither....so pick one or the other.

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    Ahhh - the calibers

    I would elect to have 38+P over .380 but - I have to ''defend'' .380 just a bit because it's all wife has right now - her choice! I leave her loaded with just std 95 FMJ's - feeling that it is unlikely with this load that HP's will do too much that is more useful - particularly where clothing gets in the way.

    But as usual we have to mention shot placment - meaning that say, 2 well placed .380's could very easily outdo 2 badly placed 38 +P's. We have to remember that the .380 (9x17) is really just a pipsqueek 9mm - it cannot really be any more.

    Add to that a +P 38 delivering a 158 - well - to some extent - no contest!!
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    If Smith and Wesson ever brought back their I frame and made it in 9mm (it would fit) this debate would end pretty quick. I side with .38 Special FWIW. The Gold Dot short barrel loads are not to be dismissed.

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    Hello. If interested, here are my thoughts on this question:

    http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/3...alor380acp.htm

    Best.

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    Hoorah for Mr Camp - I remember now that info - more than well worth a peek.

    Thx Steve.
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    I have both. a colt mustang and a taurus 85 ultralight, and I like both.
    At the moment in the .38, I have corbons in her. (can't exactly remember what grain...).
    The .380 is stuffed with a 6 stack of Federal 90 GR. hydra-shoks.
    I thought of alternate rounds of a hydro-shok, then a 95 GR. FMJ.
    What you guys think of that ?

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    Artz i really dont think it matters much , expantion may well be dicey with a .380 , that is why i just went with ball and would only consider it an egress or bob ( back off bi*ch ) option , it will serve but it isnt optimal . i have carried it as primairy on many occations due to convience of the pistol , not because i considered it a good stopper , that being said it beats hell outa a stern look and harsh words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs
    i have carried it as primairy on many occations due to convience of the pistol , not because i considered it a good stopper , that being said it beats hell outa a stern look and harsh words.
    amen....thats the reason mousguns exist, convience...

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    i carry a 38 snubbie, and it certainly seems adequate to me. one problem with these sorts of discussions is that no one would select such a gun to go to a battle with, of course. so i suppose it would depend on just what you think you are up against. as an offensive weapon, no 380 or 38 is going to be selected.but for the last line of defense, both seem adequate at 10 feet.
    and.. revolvers are way cooler than semiautos....
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    I dont remember where i hear it, but a man once said, "I would rather be shot in the leg with a .45acp, than a .22lr in the head." I have always believed that if you have a gun, no matter what caliber, you are better off than the guy without a gun. Just my .02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefs-special-guy
    no 380 or 38 is going to be selected.but for the last line of defense, both seem adequate at 10 feet.
    knowing that I had time to prepare for a battle, I would have a 12 ga. shotgun and a small hi-capacity carbine, but as for portability in the last line of defense the .38 or .380 should just be fine... I say this knowing that I have never been in a gunfight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen A. Camp
    Hello. If interested, here are my thoughts on this question:
    as always, i find your articles amongst the best information available.

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