Why carry a .380???
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February 17th, 2009 09:14 AM
Ex, if anyone ever honestly uses James Bond as a legitimate reason, they need to be beaten with a rubber hose and water boarded. As for the .38 vs. .380, why stop there, why not carry a .357 Magnum in a J-frame instead of the supposedly anemic .38Spcl+P? It's the same size as a 642, if we're going to run out one round as being more "substantial" the .38 wouldn't be my choice.
Last edited by JD; February 17th, 2009 at 11:19 AM.
February 17th, 2009 11:04 AM
With all due respect, the line begins...
"7.65 mil with a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window".
I believe 7.65 is a 32, not a 380.
Of course, this has nothing to do with
the original question...
Why carry a .380???
February 17th, 2009 03:30 PM
the P3At isn't much smaller... but why go up to a bigger, heavier gun and still have a puny cartridge?
Originally Posted by AntiHerd
Or, in other words; Your assumption that a 9mm is sufficient where a 380 is not... That's the part that's causing you confusion.
Please note: I don't want to get into the religious war of caliber choice... I'm just noting that the original poster is making an assumption that is causing him confusion. - All I'm saying is that if you think a 9mm is good, then the 380 isn't much different. and in particular, it isn't so different that a 9mm is worth such a bigger form-factor.
I'm just not using flowery language to hide the fact that _I_ don't have that belief.
Heisenberg may have slept here
February 17th, 2009 05:24 PM
I carry a Ruger LCP simply as backup, it's not my primary carry weapon. But, it's a nice walk the dog weapon, or a weapon for a quick trip out at night to pick up milk or something like that.
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February 17th, 2009 06:03 PM
Actually, I would advocate a 357 but I think the sacrifices in muzzle velocity and muzzle energy & the humongous recoil/noise/muzzle blast negate all the good stuff. Especially where frame size and weight make the difference. Even for an experienced shooter, it's a negligible improvement in a snub nose. For a novice the 357 snubbie makes no sense at all.
Originally Posted by JD
In a situation where I dumped five rounds or 38+P into the center of mass (not talking any head shots here) I'd be much more certain of a favorable outcome as opposed to even twice that number of .380. Of course, I would not want to be on the receiving end of either!
Technically a 380 is a 9mm kurz or "short." I think the 9mm is at the lowest end of acceptability for self defense IMHO & I also stand opposed to opening up the caliber wars! But when I instruct for ccw permits, I advise against anything smaller than a 9mm +P.
A 38+P also offers more muzzle blast and in the instance of a contact wound I'd feel better with the avulsion such would cause to the flesh in that region. The revolver is also much less liable to jam after the first shot due to pushing the slide out of battery (remember, contact shot). That short a range is more often the norm than the exception.
Yeah, I was thinking that very thing, but without going back to reviewing the actual scene I think I did alright for an ol fogey.
Originally Posted by Coach
Q: Nearly EVERY PPKs I have ever fired (dry or live) has had an atrocious trigger weight in the neighborhood of 12+ pounds DA. Yours? Or did you have it worked on?
Originally Posted by Ridgeline
A good 38 snubnose can be had for less than a quality 380. Especially the P3AT, but in that case it's less an issue of cost than availability! Obviously many folks here agree and so Kahr and Keltec are having a hard time keeping their shelves (and dealer's shelves) stocked. That's fine. Each to their own. I just wouldn't carry a 380. Nor would I so recommend.
Originally Posted by crzy4guns
Last edited by JD; February 17th, 2009 at 09:49 PM.
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February 17th, 2009 07:14 PM
Would you stand down range from it?
Originally Posted by AntiHerd
Didn't think so
February 18th, 2009 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by HowardCohodas
It's certainly not MY plan, for sure.
Still........it'd take a real pair to stay in the house, much less go farther into the lion's lair after all that shooting IMO.
She's my EX wife and it's her and her husband's plan now.
(She took my favorite .380 with her when she went out the door. Sure do miss that gun!)
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