I trust Federal HST 124gr standard pressure rounds. Expansion is pretty impressive.
Also, this is from the SXT website. The energy of the +P+ is better than some .45 rounds...
This is a discussion on 9mm Carry load within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; New to this forum, but been shooting for years. I had been carrying a S&W 9mm 4"barrel for years with Cor-Bon 115 +P JHP. I ...
New to this forum, but been shooting for years. I had been carrying a S&W 9mm 4"barrel for years with Cor-Bon 115 +P JHP. I also carry a 1911 on occasion.
I had been much more into target shooting of rifles and such, and never really gave much thought to my carry gun, as the carry gun is more of a tool than a hobby.
I have been giving some a lot of thought to carry ammo latley, as it is time to make a new purchase after rotating and shooting most of the stock I had laid in.
I am really second guessing the choice of the 115 grain bullet I had been shooting. The more I search, the more I am confused. I shoot +p in the 9mm because in 9mm I can easily control the more stout load, and it seems like the bullet performance will benefit from the added velocity.
I am torn between 147, 115, and 124 grn offerings. I know badguys are going to dislike any of them, but is there one that is gennerally accepted as the best self defense carry load in 9mm?
All those bullet weights offer good self defense loads.
I'm hesitant to use any 147 Grain in a 9 mm though, but that's because I remember the first round of 147 Grain bullets in 9 mm and their dismal failure to work. Anything I carry in 9 mm is a +P or a +P+ by choice, but wouldn't have a problem with a "standard" pressure load either.
For me, 9 mm and 38 Special are the two calibers that I am the most critical of when it comes to selecting a bullet, as I believe the room for error, in regards to bullet selection is smaller.
Don't worry too much about the bullet though. Concentrate on learning how to put your bullets where they need to go. If I was going to carry a non +P or +P+ load I'd probably lean towards the 124 Grain myself. If you were going to use a +P load the Corbon 115 Grain +P DPX is a great choice, and so is the 124 Grain +P. In the +P+ loads I use 115 Grain because I can get it easily. If I could get the 127 Grain +P+ I wouldn't feel bad with that either.
Sounds like I am OK with the 115, but I think I am leaning towards giving some 124 grn +p a try.
I appreciate the responses, as I know this question gets asked a lot.
Yeah, what Biker said. I've long carried the 124 +P in Gold Dots, but our ballistics testing has made me decide to shift over to CorBon for my carry guns - but that is a pretty marginal issue. Bottom line is that they're just handguns, and bullet placement is more important than some magical weight or powder combination.
From everything I 've read - you couldn't go wrong with Federal HST ammo.
Good price, geat performance!
I'd buy a few boxes of 124gr.+p and settle in for the duration.
It's state of the art stuff and if it ever gets any better than this it won't be by much.
DPX is great also. But at a lot more cost per round. HST may be as good or better and the HST pricing allows you to practice with your carry ammo and not skimp so much because of DPX cost - always a good plan, especially in an auto.
Some claim that because police departments pick a certain load, that the decision to do so is good enough to rely upon. For me, though, that a thousand police departments select a given round for their Glocks is only one indicator, but it doesn't prove a thing about performance in my gun.
The specific gun in question is very important. They are each made to different specs (ie, Glock 19 vs CZ P-01 vs S&W XD). Your specific gun isn't mine. Mine might well work with a certain load better than yours; yours might get hung up on less-than-perfect crimping, or something that's a bit too short or long. You might live in a region where people regularly bundle up with five layers of clothing in the depths of winter, whereas folks in Florida are often going around with barely a t-shirt to make a mess of an inbound bullet. And so on.
My choice, in my specific CZ P-01 9mm semi-auto: DoubleTap JHP 124gr +P (Speer Gold Dot bullet). My second choice: Federal Hydrashok Tactical JHP 124gr +P+. Both work exceptionally well in my particular gun. Both have been through a thousand rounds of each, to prove the concept. Both of these work very well in actual tests I've performed through various materials. No guarantees, but I'm of the opinion that, when it comes down to the last 10% of performance, I'd prefer to have cycling excellence above that last 10%. YMMV.
I would not afraid to use 147 HST. they penetrate very well and expand really big! Easy to shoot too.
Another choice would be Ranger 127 +P+
and 124 +P Gold Dot from Double Tap. The last one is hotter then Speer's 124 +P Gold Dot with the same bullet.
I may be more limited by availability at this point. I am going to do some testing, but I picked up a few boxes of Speer Gold Dot +P 124 grain loads today.
Seems to me, you can tally them up and about as many guys will swear by Gold Dots or HST followed closely by corbon, golden sabers, hydra-shok and a pile of others.
I also agree that the most important thing is probably reliability. I know you have to be ready and train to clear malfunctions, but if it won't shoot reliably it really doesn't matter anyway.
That is what I use. Speer GDHP +P 124 gr in all of my 9mm's. Have worked reliably, and have chronoed at close to what the listed velocity is. Most importantly, they have functioned reliably.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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Another vote for 124gr +P HSTs!
Nothing wrong with Gold Dots either!
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Guys, if you like HST buy it now while you still can. Federal is ordering retailers to stop selling it to the public. Federal intended it to be LEO only. My local store made the announcement a few months ago.
Gun control is not the answer. Gun control is the question. The answer is NO.
Im getting my chl this saturday and was leaning towards the Federal hydras +P+ Ive a Sig 239 and its plenty large and heavy enough to handle the super powered +P+ rounds I would think. Havent been to the range with it with those bullets yet, hope to very soon though.
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Not all 9mm HST rounds are created equal. While the 124gr is produced I had not found it recommend anyplace. I did some testing and found the 124gr did not retain weight while the 147gr performed very well!
If you can't find 9mm 147gr HST then carry another brand!