Bond Arms .45 acp -Best SD Round?

Bond Arms .45 acp -Best SD Round?

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    Bond Arms .45 acp -Best SD Round?

    I have a Bond Arms .45 acp with a 3 inch barrel. I can't decide which round would be best for self defense (of coarse) between the 230 gr. Hydra-Shok, 165 gr. Hydra-Shok, or 230 gr. Hard Ball. I believe that within 10-15 ft. that there will be little to none loss of velocity. The re-coil is no problem, it's a real sweet shooter. Help Please!


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    I like Federal HST, Corbon DPX, and I've heard this new Winchester PDX is good, must be OK if the FBI is using it.
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    The three different rounds I listed are the only rounds I'm asking about. I need the best advice, pros & cons about those three only, used for self defense, in my Bond Arms .45 acp.

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    I have a Bond Arms in .45 Colt, I load it with 000 buck (5 pellets) for close defense work.

    Check out our ballistics tests for the .45 ammo. That might help.

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    Is the .45 HST acceptable? I like the 230 gr. +P HST from Federal.
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    If it was me, I'd carry 230gr Hydra Shok and practice with 230 ball. Although my experiences with the 165gr are only with pistols bigger than 3", I am not a fan of it. I use the 230gr in just about everything .45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhouse 15 View Post
    If it was me, I'd carry 230gr Hydra Shok and practice with 230 ball. Although my experiences with the 165gr are only with pistols bigger than 3", I am not a fan of it. I use the 230gr in just about everything .45.
    What are the drawbacks concerning the 165 gr.?
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    I didn't like the 165 gr. HydraShock either, they are a low-recoil round and perform like it. IMO They feel week in the gun when I shot them. I much prefered the 230 gr. But I like the 230 HST+P better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmanluke View Post
    I didn't like the 165 gr. HydraShock either, they are a low-recoil round and perform like it. IMO They feel week in the gun when I shot them. I much prefered the 230 gr. But I like the 230 HST+P better.
    Low re-coil, yes, but 1140 fps. certainly isn't WEAK!

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    I was talking with a gunsmith today. He told me to load my Bond Arms .45 acp. with 230 gr. hard ball. He said that regardless of the barrel length, it takes 1140 fps. for a .45 acp. HP to expand. If that's true, then HP ammo in a .45 acp. traveling at 850 fps. is of no benefit whatsoever over the hard ball. He said it's all hype and sales BS. that make people feel better and more secure to load their .45 acp. with HP ammo. The 165 gr. Hydra-Shok , low re-coil, claims-1140 fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
    I was talking with a gunsmith today. He told me to load my Bond Arms .45 acp. with 230 gr. hard ball. He said that regardless of the barrel length, it takes 1140 fps. for a .45 acp. HP to expand. If that's true, then HP ammo in a .45 acp. traveling at 850 fps. is of no benefit whatsoever over the hard ball. He said it's all hype and sales BS. that make people feel better and more secure to load their .45 acp. with HP ammo. The 165 gr. Hydra-Shok , low re-coil, claims-1140 fps.

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    Blanket statements like that don't hold water with me. I'd bet that a bullet manufacturer could make one that would expand at 200 FPS if they wanted to. I personally like 230 gr but use the 165 gr +P Powerball in my 3" Kimber and suspect that they would open up just fine. Hopefully I'll never have to put it to the test.
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