Surplus brass to be mutilated? (Merged X3)

Surplus brass to be mutilated? (Merged X3)

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    Exclamation Surplus brass to be mutilated? (Merged X3)

    This is going around on a few message boards, though I do not know if it is accurate, it sounds par for the course. Perhaps someone here has a way of checking into it.

    "Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction. Mutilation of the property can be done at the DRMO, if permitted by the Government, or it may be mutilated at a site chosen by the buyer. Mutilation means that the property will be destroyed to the extent prevents its reuse or reconstruction. DOD Surplus personnel will determine when property has been sufficiently mutilated to meet the requirements of the Government. "

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    Kinda looks as if the article is true from what I have read.

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    After reading the entire thread I do not believe it to be so. One member checked it out and it turns out the "auction" in question actually had no requirement for "destruction".
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    I just shot on the 12th and we didn't collect the brass and send it to DRMO so I don't think it is true!

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    I sure hope this is incorrect. It seems like it would make the shortage of .223 even worse, since there are companies who buy and reload these rounds for sale to the public.
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    I haven't been to the range in several weeks. So.....how's the market for once fired brass anyway? I'd be selling my brass if I could turn around and buy new ammo with the funds....problem is, new ammo is hard to come by as well. Kind of a vicious cycle huh?

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    As a brass rat at the range it's clear to me that the screws have been turned. The shooters are being much more thoughtful in collecting their brass &/or guys like me a getting more aggressive and more in numbers. It's slim picken's.
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    DOD to require mutilation of all once fired brass. (Merged)

    Subject: Important Notice to Scrap Metal Buyers!
    Dear Valued Customer:

    Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:

    Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.

    Thank you,

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    Scottsdale, AZ 85254

    Here is a source for that: 0001 - Uncategorized at Government Liquidation


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    If they take out imported ammo next, then our only real choices will be in the 20-100 round box variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    It's our Messiah's start at "Backdoor" gun control.


    start???

    seems like we are well into the 2nd quarter.



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    Second American Tea Party Idea - DoD

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Gary Marbut-MSSA
    To: David Hart
    Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:22 PM
    Subject: American Tea Party idea

    David,

    The Defense Logistics Agency, a subset of the Department of Defense, informed all affected parties yesterday that all military installations and outlets may no longer sell expended and reloadable cartridge brass into the marketplace - it must all be destroyed by shredding or melting so it is suitable only as foundry brass for making doorknobs and other brass products.

    Expended military brass is worth $2.00 per pound as reloadable brass, but only 35 cents per pound as foundry brass. Taxpayers pay twice for this DoD decision; once for the lost value of destroyed brass, and again for the resulting higher cost of ammunition.

    One theme for the upcoming Tea Parties across America could be. "We won't pay." That is, people may be willing to pay the Department of Defense to defend crucial American interests (whatever those may be), but simply will not pay DoD for the lost value of destroyed cartridge brass in order to prevent U.S. citizens from buying less expensive ammunition remanufactured from that brass. This is the opposite of recycling.

    This message should ring personally for every American gun owner. The price of ammunition for EVERY firearm will be inflated by this DoD administrative decision, and availability of ALL ammunition, already in short supply, will be curtailed by this DoD administrative decision.

    The gun owners of America should rally around this single idea.

    Gary Marbut, president
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