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    Which round is best?

    Between a high velocity hollow point that penetrates "less" and completely explodes, and a round of the same caliber that penetrates "more" and mushrooms, which is best for self defense? (smaller than .45)

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    A completely devastating and maximum penetration foot shot with a .40 is not as good as a 'so-so' wound with 'so-so' penetration with a .22 to the eye....

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    For me, a combination of both is what I look for.
    The fact that I most often carry something with a 2" barrel, I lean toward a lighter faster bullet, but I look for something with good expansion as well.
    As soon as I can get my hands on the recently re-released Federal Nyclad 124 grain .38 special rounds, it will be my carry ammo.
    Now setting aside defense ammo and looking at pure shooting fun I'l take my GP100 loaded with .357 Magnum rounds, just for the joy of shooting.
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    With modern developments in ballistics what matters most is what service caliber / firearm combination can you shoot best. Shot placement trumps everything in a handgun. So the question really should be what gun / caliber combination do you shoot best?
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    At first, I was going to post a dissertation of facts and charts on ballistics, but instead, simply take a look of what law enforcement is typically using. The folks at your local gun shop may have some input and advise on that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
    Between a high velocity hollow point that penetrates "less" and completely explodes, and a round of the same caliber that penetrates "more" and mushrooms, which is best for self defense? (smaller than .45)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
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    I guess it's simply because a lot of folks feel it's such a personal choice. For instance, for my S&W 642, I like the tests results of the
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
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    As with just about anything the "best" is subjective. IMO you can't go wrong with HST, Gold Dot, or Ranger T. Most LEO's are going to use Gold Dot.

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    After determining the best handgun/ammo combination, I go for the heavier bullets. Deeper penetration & more mass on target. Less dependent on velocity.
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    Any modern, name brand hollow point ammunition that functions well in my firearm is just fine with me.
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    How about Hornady Critical Defence. I got some 9mm but did not get to try them yet. I hear good things about them.

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    I think 9mm HTS/WinchesterBonded (PDX1) 127gr/124gr
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    .40 S&W 155 Gr. JHP. Specificaly the lower cost (last years model) Winchester Ranger.

    The milk bottle test tells me they will penetrate sufficiently and end up at .7" to .75" diameter. They also at close range stop Elk that are on the ground from a rifle shot from kicking.

    I have never believed that Gold Plated Cartridges were necessary to hunt with or provide personal protection. The Hi Dollar SD ammo is in my opinion over hyped.

    I still hunt with Winchester Silvertip rifle ammo as I have since the 50's. There have been all sorts of amazing high dollar bullets developed during the intervening years yet none of them can put a deer or Elk on the ground any faster than a single 180 Gr. .308 Silvertip out of my rifle.
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