Ammo inventory...
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Yesterday I went down to put away some rounds I had bought and noticed one of my boxes with a open flap....
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April 25th, 2009 04:02 PM
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Ammo inventory...
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Yesterday I went down to put away some rounds I had bought and noticed one of my boxes with a open flap....
The son (22) apparently had been showing off how good a shot he is for his friends at the farm as of late, N noticing all his shooting I said "that had better not be my ammo you are using" where as he said "no I bought it at Dunham's on sale" When I quizzed him about no price label, he assured me they do not mark all their ammo....
So last night the count was 750 rounds of 12GA gone, 1,000 rounds .223 gone... (Still not sure how many .45 ACP and .22 lr he took,) N I about blew a fuse!!!
I told him no money or favors from dad until all my ammo has been replaced, and opened his ammo can and confiscated every round that did not have a price tag on the box, Oh boy I got all of 60 rounds back....
I don't know wither to be PO'd that he lied to me or happy he's pro gun and likes to shoot....
His response "I didn't shoot all that much" and refused to believe how much of my ammo he laid waste to until I showed him all the empty cases he had tossed into the basement corner...so for now I guess it is buy a cheap gun safe just to lock all my remaining ammo up in....
So as a word of caution, if you have kids that like to shoot and they are of age... Lock up your ammo before it is gone!!!
(Rant off)
"The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
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April 25th, 2009 05:04 PM
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It's very funny, actually, but I can feel your pain too!
Sounds like he owes you a lot of chores and work!
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April 25th, 2009 05:11 PM
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I know where you're coming from, Sheldon.
I have a son who likes to shoot.
All of my ammo is locked up.
When we go to the range, I make him ante up.
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April 25th, 2009 07:16 PM
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1000 rounds of .223 and some 45acp? At today's prices, I'd have blown a gasket and run for another mile with no oil pressure over that ordeal! Likely throw a rod over it too! You'll have to admit that ammo sure goes fast when you're having fun. Good luck with your recovery operations, and reassess your security.
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April 25th, 2009 07:19 PM
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Wow. Just... Wow.
I think I'd have been less upset to find my all my Scotch empty.
Well... that's stretching it.
I feel bad for you. The timing of this alone (ammo shortage) is worth a rant.
"Wise people learn when they can; fools learn when they must." - The Duke of Wellington
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April 25th, 2009 07:24 PM
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I'd have been conflicted also: glad he was interested in shooting, disappointed in the lie.
The disappointment would have won out, though, followed by a long period of wondering if I was being told the truth during subsequent conversations about anything.
Being lied to is disappointing, but at least it could have been from worse events.
...After thinking about this a bit, I wish my daughter liked shooting enough to steal my ammo.
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April 25th, 2009 07:34 PM
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I feel your pain. Really! If I were to discover that much ammo had been used I would have gone through the roof. I do believe a safe to store your remaining ammo is a very wise investment.
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April 25th, 2009 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sheldon J
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Yesterday I went down to put away some rounds I had bought and noticed one of my boxes with a open flap....
The son (22) apparently had been showing off how good a shot he is for his friends at the farm as of late, N noticing all his shooting I said "that had better not be my ammo you are using" where as he said "no I bought it at Dunham's on sale" When I quizzed him about no price label, he assured me they do not mark all their ammo....
So last night the count was 750 rounds of 12GA gone, 1,000 rounds .223 gone... (Still not sure how many .45 ACP and .22 lr he took,) N I about blew a fuse!!!
I told him no money or favors from dad until all my ammo has been replaced, and opened his ammo can and confiscated every round that did not have a price tag on the box, Oh boy I got all of 60 rounds back....
I don't know wither to be PO'd that he lied to me or happy he's pro gun and likes to shoot....
His response "I didn't shoot all that much" and refused to believe how much of my ammo he laid waste to until I showed him all the empty cases he had tossed into the basement corner...so for now I guess it is buy a cheap gun safe just to lock all my remaining ammo up in....
So as a word of caution, if you have kids that like to shoot and they are of age... Lock up your ammo before it is gone!!!
(Rant off)
He should buy it back since it was not his in the first place... that's a lot of ammo to "borrow" and something could be learned if they had to pay for that which was not their own.
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April 25th, 2009 09:24 PM
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Had the same problem several years ago. I would always buy a brick of 22lr that I could find on sale, a lot of them were purchased for $7.99-$9.99. I had amassed a collection of 4,000 to 5,000 rounds. They were just stored in the basement. One nice summer day I wanted to shoot something with the ol 22, and could not find 1 full 50 box of ammo.
I was livid. He had used them all for "coon hunting" He must have supplied every friend with ammo he had, and I don't think he sold more than 2 coons.
Now all guns and ammo are behind a steel door with a dead bolt.
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April 25th, 2009 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
Sheldon J
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Yesterday I went down to put away some rounds I had bought and noticed one of my boxes with a open flap....
The son (22) apparently had been showing off how good a shot he is for his friends at the farm as of late, N noticing all his shooting I said "that had better not be my ammo you are using" where as he said "no I bought it at Dunham's on sale" When I quizzed him about no price label, he assured me they do not mark all their ammo....
So last night the count was 750 rounds of 12GA gone, 1,000 rounds .223 gone... (Still not sure how many .45 ACP and .22 lr he took,) N I about blew a fuse!!!
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(Rant on)
Well let's see, stealing and then lying about it? That does not fly well around me. I would definitely lock it up and make the boy either replace it or work it off. I have a 21 yo daughter who is learning to shoot as well. She loves going to the range and shooting her mom's .380 but when it comes to paying for ammo and range time she is nowhere near the cash register ;) Now granted I invite and enjoy her coming with us but if I found she was doing what you described I would be majorly pissed and there would be some serious discussion and definitely some payback before she was invited again. These kids do not have the sense of value that we did at their age and it's our job to teach that to them.
(Rant off)
I am turning into my father. Thanks dad :)
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April 25th, 2009 10:00 PM
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My whole family, aunts, uncles, cousins, sister, brother-in law, etc like to shoot and used to always expect me and dad to supply their ammo when they came out to shoot. Finally, we started telling them that we would supply the guns and clays, and throwers, and Dad would supply the place to shoot, but they had to supply the ammo for them and us too. It worked out well after that.
When I was younger though, I used to shoot up all my Dad's .22 and shotgun ammo. Of course things were different then. Ammo was cheap and you could replace it. He never complained (too much) but he did keep his centerfire stuff under lock and key in the gun cabinet and wouldn't let me shoot it becuase it was too expensive. I still shot a lot of his ammo though, and I have tried to make it up to him over the years.
Nowadays, things are different and ammo is much more of an expense and has even become a limited commodity. I would bet that explaining that to your son will solve the problem. Like you said, at least he likes to shoot.
I wouldn't consider shooting dad's ammo stealing, but that is likely a result of the relationship that I had and still have with my dad, I know some people are different and he was way more giving and lienient than I am. I try to be as unselfish as he is, but I'll never make it.
Then again, lying about it would be a problem if he was mine. If I had lied to my dad, that would not have been pretty for me and when my kid lies to me, she pays triple the price for whatever she did to get in trouble in the first place.
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April 25th, 2009 10:11 PM
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Looks like thievery and lying to me. Far worse than missing ammo at any price.
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
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April 26th, 2009 04:09 AM
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Uh, er, my son knows the combo to the safe.
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April 26th, 2009 02:53 PM
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Mine (15) likes to shoot, but I make him pull the handle on the Rockchucker to replace what he sends down range.
He is also my brass scrounger. He found out the range master only charges 5 cents per round of brass and buys me 200rds of 30-06 for the Garand each trip. When we reach 1000rds we reload that.
He will soon be running a four cavity mould for the .357 and sizing-lubricating the bullets.
Reloading can be fun but he knows the ammo aint free.
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April 26th, 2009 04:05 PM
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By the time one is 22 he can either be responsible and honest or find another place to live and eat.
Regards,
Jerry
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