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    CNN says there is an ammo shortage.....Ya think? merged 3x

    Ammo hard to find as gun owners stock up - CNN.com

    Ammo hard to find as gun owners stock upStory Highlights
    Gun enthusiasts hoard ammo out of fear that new administration will impose limits

    Administration has given no indication it plans to launch new gun-control efforts

    "There's definitely a lot of fear," one gun owner says

    Ammunition manufacturers scrambling to keep up with demand
    updated 3 hours, 22 minutes agoNext Article in U.S.


    By Jim Spellman
    CNN

    AURORA, Colorado (CNN) -- Gun shops across the country are reporting a run on ammunition, a phenomenon apparently driven by fear that the Obama administration will increase taxes on bullets or enact new gun-control measures.


    Ron Cardwell fires his 9 mm semiautomatic at a paper target at a range in Aurora, Colorado.

    1 of 3 "In the last two months it's gotten very, very difficult to find ammunition," says Richard Taylor, manager of The Firing Line, a gun shop and shooting range in the Denver, Colorado, suburbs.

    "There are a lot of rumors floating around that the present government would like to increase taxes on ammunition. I think [there is] just a lot of panicked buying going on."

    While campaigning for the White House, Obama supported re-enacting the now-expired ban on assault weapons. But there is no indication that the administration will take up that measure -- or any other gun-control initiative --anytime soon.

    Nonetheless, some gun owners aren't taking any chances.

    Two weeks ago, The Firing Line was forced to impose a four-box-per-customer limit on ammo. Before that, the shop was selling 10,000 rounds of 9 mm handgun ammunition a day.

    Some calibers of ammunition have been unavailable for months.

    "Currently no .380 ammunition -- I haven't seen any for about four months ... .38 special, it's been at least a couple of months," Taylor says. "It's just that there's been a huge demand and it's far outweighed supply right now."

    Taylor says plenty of people are still coming to the range to shoot, but are gun owners hoarding ammo?

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    "People are buying cases or whatever they can get their hands on and putting it away, absolutely," he says. "The only way that this shortage can have to do with it is that people are buying and hoarding."

    Karl Roos, a physician, stopped by the range to do some shooting with his Smith and Wesson .357-caliber Magnum, using some rounds from his personal stock of ammo.

    "I have yet to see .38 special or .357 Magnum ammunition on the shelf. The stuff I'm shooting I've had for several years. I just haven't seen it for the last several months," says Roos, who adds he is always on the lookout for fresh sources of ammo. "As I'm doing the rounds of the local stores that carry ammunition, if I see something on the shelf I'll buy it."

    "I'm not too worried about things being banned or anything like that," he says. But he notes that many of his fellow gun enthusiasts are scared: "There's definitely a lot of fear."

    Jim Minardi, a gun dealer in Lakewood, Colorado, says only a few people are actually hoarding. But they are buying up so much ammo that there isn't much left on the shelves.

    "The minority of our customers are stockpiling ammunition," Minardi says. "The majority are standard shooters buying what they can."

    Wal-Mart is one of the largest ammo dealers in the United States. In an e-mail exchange, a Wal-Mart spokesman confirmed that ammo sales have been brisk.

    "Some Wal-Mart stores have experienced an increase in demand for guns and ammo and for those locations, we are working closely with suppliers to replenish shelves," says William C. Wertz, the discount chain's divisional director for public affairs and government relations. "In some situations where demand is high, so that we can better serve all customers, we will place a limit on the amount of a product that can be purchased."

    "It's no different with ammo than other products (toilet paper, batteries, etc.) that may be in short supply for one reason or another."

    Each year U.S. ammo manufacturers make about 8 billion rounds, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry. Current production data won't be in until late May, but the foundation expects the numbers to be way up.

    "In order to keep up with demand for ammunition, manufacturers are working at full capacity, 24-7," says Ted Novin, an NSSF spokesman. "Currently demand for ammunition is outpacing supply."

    Novin says he believes the reason is clear.

    "The increase in demand for firearms and ammunition is largely attributable to gun owner concerns regarding the current political climate," says Novin, referring to the Obama administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress.

    "Many of the lawmakers in power have a long history of supporting legislation that violates the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans," Novin adds. "Gun owners recognize this and are reacting accordingly."

    Ammunition manufacturers have been scrambling to keep up with demand.

    A message from Steve Hornady, president of Hornady Ammunition, on the company's Web site reads:

    "Here at Hornady Manufacturing we are breaking our own production records in an attempt to keep up with customer demand. We have added extra shifts, machinery and we are also in the process of expanding our manufacturing plant."

    Winchester Ammunition posted a similar statement:

    "Winchester Ammunition, like other ammunition manufacturers, has seen the demand for our products increase significantly since last fall. To meet that increased demand, our operations are running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

    Andrew Arulanandam, communications director of the National Rifle Association, says the "unprecedented ammo shortages are widespread, and they affect small and large retailers."

    "We have heard from members across the country in cities and in small towns from California to Maine," Arulanandam says. "There is a fear that Congress or the new administration will push for a firearm or an ammunition ban, or for a significant increase in excise taxes on firearms and ammunition. We hear this from hunters, target shooters and even from first-time gun owners who fear that there will be an effort to incrementally curtail and eventually dismantle this freedom."

    Back at The Firing Line's gun range, pilot Ron Cardwell is working on his target shooting with his 9 mm semiautomatic pistol. He loves to shoot and hopes the ammo crisis ends soon.

    "I have three or four boxes of 9 mm left at home and a couple of boxes of .45," he says. "I'm just buying as much as I can whenever I can."

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    hmm, they should define hoarding


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    I can't believe it: the Commies News Network said some thing that is true ????????? That's plain scary
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    CNN article about ammo shortage

    Just saw this...

    Ammo hard to find as gun owners stock up - CNN.com

    AURORA, Colorado (CNN) -- Gun shops across the country are reporting a run on ammunition, a phenomenon apparently driven by fear that the Obama administration will increase taxes on bullets or enact new gun-control measures.

    "In the last two months it's gotten very, very difficult to find ammunition," says Richard Taylor, manager of The Firing Line, a gun shop and shooting range in the Denver, Colorado, suburbs.

    "There are a lot of rumors floating around that the present government would like to increase taxes on ammunition. I think [there is] just a lot of panicked buying going on."

    While campaigning for the White House, Obama supported re-enacting the now-expired ban on assault weapons. But there is no indication that the administration will take up that measure -- or any other gun-control initiative --anytime soon.

    Nonetheless, some gun owners aren't taking any chances.

    Two weeks ago, The Firing Line was forced to impose a four-box-per-customer limit on ammo. Before that, the shop was selling 10,000 rounds of 9 mm handgun ammunition a day.

    Some calibers of ammunition have been unavailable for months.

    "Currently no .380 ammunition -- I haven't seen any for about four months ... .38 special, it's been at least a couple of months," Taylor says. "It's just that there's been a huge demand and it's far outweighed supply right now."

    Taylor says plenty of people are still coming to the range to shoot, but are gun owners hoarding ammo?

    "People are buying cases or whatever they can get their hands on and putting it away, absolutely," he says. "The only way that this shortage can have to do with it is that people are buying and hoarding."

    Karl Roos, a physician, stopped by the range to do some shooting with his Smith and Wesson .357-caliber Magnum, using some rounds from his personal stock of ammo.

    "I have yet to see .38 special or .357 Magnum ammunition on the shelf. The stuff I'm shooting I've had for several years. I just haven't seen it for the last several months," says Roos, who adds he is always on the lookout for fresh sources of ammo. "As I'm doing the rounds of the local stores that carry ammunition, if I see something on the shelf I'll buy it."

    "I'm not too worried about things being banned or anything like that," he says. But he notes that many of his fellow gun enthusiasts are scared: "There's definitely a lot of fear."

    Jim Minardi, a gun dealer in Lakewood, Colorado, says only a few people are actually hoarding. But they are buying up so much ammo that there isn't much left on the shelves.

    "The minority of our customers are stockpiling ammunition," Minardi says. "The majority are standard shooters buying what they can."

    Wal-Mart is one of the largest ammo dealers in the United States. In an e-mail exchange, a Wal-Mart spokesman confirmed that ammo sales have been brisk.

    "Some Wal-Mart stores have experienced an increase in demand for guns and ammo and for those locations, we are working closely with suppliers to replenish shelves," says William C. Wertz, the discount chain's divisional director for public affairs and government relations. "In some situations where demand is high, so that we can better serve all customers, we will place a limit on the amount of a product that can be purchased."

    "It's no different with ammo than other products (toilet paper, batteries, etc.) that may be in short supply for one reason or another."

    Each year U.S. ammo manufacturers make about 8 billion rounds, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry. Current production data won't be in until late May, but the foundation expects the numbers to be way up.

    "In order to keep up with demand for ammunition, manufacturers are working at full capacity, 24-7," says Ted Novin, an NSSF spokesman. "Currently demand for ammunition is outpacing supply."

    Novin says he believes the reason is clear.

    "The increase in demand for firearms and ammunition is largely attributable to gun owner concerns regarding the current political climate," says Novin, referring to the Obama administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress.

    "Many of the lawmakers in power have a long history of supporting legislation that violates the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans," Novin adds. "Gun owners recognize this and are reacting accordingly."

    Ammunition manufacturers have been scrambling to keep up with demand.

    A message from Steve Hornady, president of Hornady Ammunition, on the company's Web site reads:

    "Here at Hornady Manufacturing we are breaking our own production records in an attempt to keep up with customer demand. We have added extra shifts, machinery and we are also in the process of expanding our manufacturing plant."

    Winchester Ammunition posted a similar statement:

    "Winchester Ammunition, like other ammunition manufacturers, has seen the demand for our products increase significantly since last fall. To meet that increased demand, our operations are running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

    Andrew Arulanandam, communications director of the National Rifle Association, says the "unprecedented ammo shortages are widespread, and they affect small and large retailers."

    "We have heard from members across the country in cities and in small towns from California to Maine," Arulanandam says. "There is a fear that Congress or the new administration will push for a firearm or an ammunition ban, or for a significant increase in excise taxes on firearms and ammunition. We hear this from hunters, target shooters and even from first-time gun owners who fear that there will be an effort to incrementally curtail and eventually dismantle this freedom."

    Back at The Firing Line's gun range, pilot Ron Cardwell is working on his target shooting with his 9 mm semiautomatic pistol. He loves to shoot and hopes the ammo crisis ends soon.

    "I have three or four boxes of 9 mm left at home and a couple of boxes of .45," he says. "I'm just buying as much as I can whenever I can."

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    CNN weigs in......funny. The current administration is the reason. The one and only reason for the shortage at the present time. Is it unwarranted? Only time will tell whether it's paranoia or preparedness
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    It is actually a pretty sound and complete article. About 2 months late, but sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCalsey View Post
    CNN weigs in......funny. The current administration is the reason. The one and only reason for the shortage at the present time. Is it unwarranted? Only time will tell whether it's paranoia or preparedness
    The current administration has shown no signs of imposing any new gun control legislation. I would blame the Republicans who are scaring the general public into a frenzy.

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    There's an ammo shortage? Says who?







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    Ammo Shortage - No Wonder

    "10,000 rounds of 9mm a day",,,,Well no wonder I couldn't find any locally. Is this hoarding going to stop, or will we have to wait until 2012?

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    Couldn't find any 9mm Parabellum in my neck of the woods for about a month. Store still had some Hydrashocks and a few other defense rounds laying around, but I am not spending $1.25 per round for target practice. Walked into Wally World and asked the clerk and as luck would have it they just got a shipment of Winchester white boxes in. Six 100 round boxes (limit per customer) and a few questions from the cashier, "Why do you need this many bullets anyway, you shooting your neighbors or going on a rampage or something?"

    I am fairly young looking so I get that from time to time when I buy ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel8x View Post
    The current administration has shown no signs of imposing any new gun control legislation. I would blame the Republicans who are scaring the general public into a frenzy.
    You are being sarcastic, right?

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    I see post after post after post after post (well, you get the point) about ammo shortages. The value of re-loading is greater than ever, it seems. We should all become more self sufficient and purchase the tools to do for ourselves. You can save 50% or more with most re-loads. Invest in a decent re-loading setup and it will pay it self back in no time...you'll be able to shoot a lot more also.

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    Akross,

    "few questions from the cashier, "Why do you need this many bullets anyway, you shooting your neighbors or going on a rampage or something?"

    Questions like that from a cashier would have disturbed me quite a bit. It is absolutely none of the cashiers business why you need 600 or 6,000 rounds.

    If you go buy 5 gallons of paint, you are not ask if you are going to draw graffiti with it.

    If you buy 5 quarts of motor oil you are not ask if you are going to go pollute the local reservoir with it.

    As far as that goes, if you go buy 5 tons of b--l s--t you are not ask if you are going to go dump it on the front porch of city hall.

    Just wondered what you told the person.

    Don't mean to hijack this thread but I would have been very upset if someone ask me a question like that.
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    One store in my town still has common calibers. Sadly the prices are literally 2 times or more. .45acp is going for 2.25 a round, .357mag is 2.75 a round. Didnt bother on 9mm .38 or .44colt, the price seemed more then even the .45acp.
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

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    I saw 1000 round cases of .38 special for $360, 1000 rnds of .45 for like $380 or so, and a 1000 rnd case of 7.62x39 for $350 in the Raleigh NC area, about 9-10 cases of each sitting on the floor and no mob attacking it.

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