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    I have some speer gold dot 135 gr. +P JHP for my 442. I just got back from academy where I purchased some Monarch 158 gr. semi-jacketed flat point. My question is why the heavy grain on a non +P ammo? I'm new to all of this so plz shed some light on the whole +P situation


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    158gr was(and is)a classic load in BOTH +P and standard pressure. Back in my revolver days at work our duty load was a 158 SWCHP+P(translation:Semi-Wadcutter Hollow Point PLUS P). Good round especially out of a 3" or 4" Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old grunt View Post
    158gr was(and is)a classic load in BOTH +P and standard pressure. Back in my revolver days at work our duty load was a 158 SWCHP+P(translation:Semi-Wadcutter Hollow Point PLUS P). Good round especially out of a 3" or 4" Smith.
    +1. I still load my 38 spls with the 158gr SWCHP+P.

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    so what difference does the +P make? higher pressure?

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    I believe it stands for higher pressure loads. Check your owners manual to see if you can use in your firearm, some manufactures advise limited use in firearms because of more abuse or wear, some advise not to use because it might not be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latexan View Post
    so what difference does the +P make? higher pressure?
    +P ammunition is loaded to higher chamber pressures. +Ps offer higher velocities than standard pressure rounds. You should check your manuals to make sure your gun can safely use +P ammunition before using it.

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    "My question is why the heavy grain on a non +P ammo?"

    The 158 grain bullet weight in .38 Special was the original to the cartridge when it was introduced in 1899.

    I'm another very happy +P 158 grain user. I think the .38 Special is at its best with bullets heavier than 140 grains in weight.
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    thx gunny bunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by latexan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by latexan View Post
    I have some speer gold dot 135 gr. +P JHP for my 442. I just got back from academy where I purchased some Monarch 158 gr. semi-jacketed flat point. My question is why the heavy grain on a non +P ammo? I'm new to all of this so plz shed some light on the whole +P situation
    BTW if that's the same GoldDot ammo as I carry, it's designed for maximum performance from short barrels.
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    +P or +P+ are typically better personal protection performers that their standard pressure counterparts.

    However, short barrel pistols see less velocity improvements, because all the powder does not have a chance to burn.

    For this reason, some agencies, and department issue heaver weight ammo for us e in short barrel pistols.

    I’ve been carrying 124 Gr +p Hydro Shok in my Glock 26. One of my best friends went up and visited his old office and brought me back a box of 147 normal pressures Hydro Shok 9mm stating that was considered better for short barrel 9mm.

    BTW: I keep Winchester +P+ 127 Ranger T’s in my home defense Glock 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmhawth View Post
    +1. I still load my 38 spls with the 158gr SWCHP+P.
    Me too.
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