Shannonsj: Welcome to the forum!
Shannonsj: Welcome to the forum!
I don't care about the naysayers. I just bought four more boxes: 2 9mm, 1 45 Colt & 1 454 Casull. As I said, the 9mm RBCD like my MagSafe is for warm weather. If I ever move where it's cooler, I'll likely swap them out in the winter for a more traditional LEO type brand like GOLD DOT or one of the Hornady family. But I'll keep RBCD on my own perceptions and that's my risk.:scruntiny:
Sure, if you want to support a company that made baldfaced lies about their products, knock yourself out.
I'm sure their "ballistics tests" weren't made up either.
One thing I learned after reading through the majority of posts here is that there have been no less than two "first post" resurrections of this thread by fanatical supporters of this product. Perhaps new members shouldn't be allowed to resurrect old threads lol
Yeah, well, perhaps some basic understanding of physics, and some basic unwillingness to do business with the absolute bottom of the bottom of the bottom feeders would serve us better...
While only six yrs in gun ownership, I take little for granted when it comes to others safety. If I do miss a criminal, I dont want to hit some one else. If the round breaks up after hitting sheet rock, more better. Now as for the 2 tests, I used coconuts for both. First one had five used, each one got a different type of round. FMJ 38Sspcl, Hollow point gold dot 357, Glasier blue 38, Mag safe 38 and RBCD 38. same gun same distance. The HP did do slightly more damage then the fmj. The other three did at least 3-4 more times damage up to and including cracking the shells apart. entrance and exit wounds were at least 1" to 2" holes. RBCD took out an 1" to 1 1/2" swath out a 1/3 of the shell. My friend with 30+ yrs as gun owner and reloader, also a ccw holder for many yrs. He was sold on these rounds for stopping power. The second test used heavy cotton sweat shirt material over the coconut, 8 layers thick. Only slightly less damage.
Look at all of the evidence presented--it's NOT a special, magical metal bullet--it's a soft lead bullet with a rubber plug in the base.
In short, it's not going to live up to the claims RBCD made about the bullet--they lied to you.
Feel free to carry what you wish...but at least make that decision based on solid information, not lies from a marketing department.
ETA--pics of the bullet:
As can be seen above, in addition to a typical copper jacket, the RBCD/LeMas bullets analyzed were fabricated with a nylon core (that gets variably squished and deformed during manufacture, resulting in inconsistent bullet CG) and metal nose portion that turns out to be composed of LEAD, with slight amounts of antimony. In other words, the RBCD/LeMas bullets are lightweight, high-velocity, lead nosed JSP’s—so much for lead-free, programmable, heat sensitive “blended metal technology”…
Might have had something to do with the acoustics in the hangar (held a Cessna 310 and a Pitts stunt plane and a quarter sized Corsair of the type the old man flew in the Pacific in '43. That old guy was a genuine hero! 18 air to air kills. Navy Cross, Silver Star, TWO DFC's. I am so proud of that old marine. Even for having been gone for over three years now. But for lack of the ricochet factor all that ammo was stellar.That's why I carry it. Not for some ethereal claims of Über Power.
OK, tell you what. Get to a farm or custom slaughterhouse. Get them to let you shoot an animal in the head with that RBCD ammunition. You choose the caliber. Brain shot from 12 inches away. Then when they sever the head from the carcass, bifurcate it and show the damage done.
If you lived near me, I'd have you come to my inlaw's farm and do it when I slaughter a pig or cow.
For those that don't know, a gunshot to the head isn't to kill the animal for butchering, it's to stun it so it holds still while you cut it's neck and bleed it out. That's what kills it, not the gunshot.