Aluminum case SD rounds?

Aluminum case SD rounds?

This is a discussion on Aluminum case SD rounds? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I read somewhere (can't remember exactly) someone recommend, for weight reasons, carrying aluminum-case rounds in a CC gun. I have noticed that aluminum-case rounds are ...

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 43

Thread: Aluminum case SD rounds?

  1. #1
    Distinguished Member Array GWRedDragon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Arlington, VA
    Posts
    1,413

    Aluminum case SD rounds?

    I read somewhere (can't remember exactly) someone recommend, for weight reasons, carrying aluminum-case rounds in a CC gun. I have noticed that aluminum-case rounds are significantly lighter than brass ones, but I have never seen aluminum-case rounds loaded with JHPs.

    What are your thoughts on this? Stupid? Smart?

    Does anyone even make such a thing, or is it a 'load it yourself' only thing?
    "Trust in God with hand on sword" -Inscription on my family's coat of arms from medieval England
    ---Carry options: G26/MTAC, PF9/MiniTuck, PPK/Pocket, USP40/OWB---
    ---NOTE: I am not an expert. If I ever start acting like a know-it-all, please call me on it immediately. ---


  2. #2
    VIP Member
    Array msgt/ret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    7,621
    The only aluminum case rounds I am familiar with are the CCI Blazer line and I have never seen any loaded with JHP. My other concern is with aluminum being so much softer than brass there may be the possibility if a case were to stovepipe it may dent in such a way that a jam may be impossible to clear quickly.
    When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
    "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."

  3. #3
    VIP Member Array dukalmighty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    15,179
    The weight between aluminum and brass cases is miniscule,if you have a problem packing maybe an extra once of weight at best in a large capacity magazine,I mean seriously there is more difference in bullet weights,you want less weight carry a 124 grn 9mm bullet instead of 147,or a 200 grn 45 instead of 230,etc.
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
    --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .

  4. #4
    VIP Member
    Array TX-JB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Sugar Land, TX
    Posts
    5,739
    I have some CCI Blazer 44 spl. JHP, but these are the only JHP's I have ever run across with aluminum cases....
    "Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas!".... Sam Houston

    Retired LEO
    Firearms Instructor
    NRA Life Member

  5. #5
    VIP Member Array Superhouse 15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    3,055
    I had the .44spl Blazer and it shot terribly in my revolver. More like a shotgun pattern. Many years ago they loaded a JHP in .25acp but I fired it into wet newspaper and water and it never did expand.

  6. #6
    Administrator
    Array QKShooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Off Of The X
    Posts
    35,744
    For purposes of Self Defense carry I really like the bright Nickel plated brass. Because of the hardness of the Nickel coating and its inherent natural lubricity the plated cases feed extra easily out of the magazines (AKA the top cartridge easily slips/slides over the one beneath even when using extra power magazine springs) and they never stick in the barrel chamber so extraction is always very smooth.

  7. #7
    VIP Member Array dukalmighty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    15,179
    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    For purposes of Self Defense carry I really like the bright Nickel plated brass. Because of the hardness of the Nickel coating and its inherent natural lubricity the plated cases feed extra easily out of the magazines (AKA the top cartridge easily slips/slides over the one beneath even when using extra power magazine springs) and they never stick in the barrel chamber so extraction is always very smooth.
    Yep Federal HST and Ranger Talon all use Nickel plated brass,I think it also shows it's premium ammunition
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
    --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .

  8. #8
    VIP Member Array Majorlk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Naugatuck, CT
    Posts
    2,406
    Others have commented on the virtually non-existent weight differential.

    Quote Originally Posted by GWRedDragon View Post
    Does anyone even make such a thing, or is it a 'load it yourself' only thing?
    (1) I haven't seen any AL-cased SD ammo.
    (2) I have never seen unfired AL cases for sale.
    (3) AL cases are not re-loadable.
    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein

  9. #9
    Member Array Gunsmoke16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    315
    Good points here. Stope-pipe would be an issue. "Every time" I have fired
    the AL cases, have encountered something like this. Don't rely on them when your life is on the line. Being AL they can stretch more and might cause a FTE out of the barrel. They are not reloadable, & as a reloader, I wouldn't use a bullet puller & try to reload with anything else as it would scar the casing (too soft) and possibly cause a case rupture explosion. Ruin your gun & maybe cost your life. Those nickel cases & sometimes the Black coated (not metal casings) are best. They just don't jam & reloaders love them. It seems from what data I have saw that the lightest weight bullet with expansion provides the hardest hit, deepest penetration. 115/124 works good in 9mm. The 147 often has problems jamming (FTF) in short barrel guns. Too heavy to snap the slide back far enough/fast enough and it jams up the ramp. I prefer Hornady. Federal is good. Hornady has some new ammo just for self defense. It has a plastic tip filler in the hollow point that's just soft enough to allow it penetrate through a winter coat and then expand fully, something no other bullet address as most jam with debri and act like a FMJ and go right through without much stopping power. Sounds interesting to me.

  10. #10
    Member Array Bart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    480
    I carry with CCI Blazer 158 gr. JHP in 357 mag.-aluminum case. Wonderful performing ammo in auto or revolver.

  11. #11
    Senior Member Array Beans's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    AZ Border Territory,
    Posts
    1,002
    AL cases are not re-loadable.
    IIRC Blazer is coming out with regular primer AL cases that Could be reloaded

  12. #12
    Senior Member Array dgg9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    philadelphia
    Posts
    513
    Quote Originally Posted by Bart View Post
    I carry with CCI Blazer 158 gr. JHP in 357 mag.-aluminum case. Wonderful performing ammo in auto or revolver.
    I would advise against it. The reason you shouldn't carry aluminum cased ammo in a steel gun is galvanic corrosion.

    Galvanic corrosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  13. #13
    Senior Member Array dgg9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    philadelphia
    Posts
    513
    Quote Originally Posted by TX-JB View Post
    I have some CCI Blazer 44 spl. JHP, but these are the only JHP's I have ever run across with aluminum cases....
    Blazer makes aluminum-cased JHPs in 9mm as well. Though not recommended for CCW, I like them as an inexpensive way of testing new guns and mags for reliable HP feeding.

  14. #14
    VIP Member Array Majorlk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Naugatuck, CT
    Posts
    2,406
    Quote Originally Posted by Beans View Post
    IIRC Blazer is coming out with regular primer AL cases that Could be reloaded
    I wouldn't do it, even for light, plinking loads.
    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein

  15. #15
    VIP Member Array Majorlk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Naugatuck, CT
    Posts
    2,406
    Quote Originally Posted by dgg9 View Post
    I would advise against it. The reason you shouldn't carry aluminum cased ammo in a steel gun is galvanic corrosion.

    Galvanic corrosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You would have to have a fair bit of moisture for that to happen, but I can't think of any current AL-cased ammo that I would carry for SD anyway.
    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Aluminum grips anyone?
    By 1911luver in forum Defensive Carry Guns
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: December 24th, 2010, 02:56 PM
  2. Aluminum grips on a Sig 228 (or 229)
    By fastk9dad in forum Defensive Carry Guns
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: June 14th, 2010, 06:18 PM
  3. steel case vs. brass case
    By HKing in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: February 19th, 2009, 01:55 PM
  4. Aluminum Frame 1911
    By BikerRN in forum Defensive Carry Guns
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: February 17th, 2008, 03:01 PM
  5. stainless vs. aluminum
    By mediapimp in forum Defensive Carry Guns
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: January 7th, 2007, 09:13 PM

Search tags for this page

aluminum case 9mm jhp

,

aluminum case self defense

,

aluminum case self defense rounds

,

aluminum cased 9mm ammo

,
aluminum cased home defense
,
aluminum personal defense ammo
,
aluminum self defense rounds
,
aluminumamonrounds
,

cci blazer aluminum jhp

,
why are defense rounds aluminum
,
why are self defense rounds aluminum cased
,
why do is defence ammo in aluminan cases
Click on a term to search for related topics.