This is a discussion on Ammo for Lightweight Commander within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I just bought a lightweight commander. What would be the best defensive ammunition to carry without beating up the frame. I used to use 185 ...
I just bought a lightweight commander. What would be the best defensive ammunition to carry without beating up the frame. I used to use 185 grain cor bon plus p in my steel frame Para-Ordnance. I will use one load for practicing and one load for carry. I will test whatever carry load to make sure it feeds properly. Can anyone recommend the two loads that will be appropriate so that this frame has a very long life.
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I'd go with a standard velocity 230gr JHP, in whichever flavor you prefer.
It'll do just fine.
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The alloy Colt frame is a lot tougher than you think.
Unless you're going to be running thousands of rounds of +P through it then you can pretty much carry and shoot whatever feeds reliably.
The best thing that you can do for your lightweight (if you plan on shooting it a lot) is to install a fresh high quality recoil spring more often than would be normal with a steel frame.
Buy a few extra recoil springs from Wolff Gunsprings or Brownell's and have them handy.
Recoil springs are cheap insurance.
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Agree with QKShooter, it's more a fresh recoil spring issue than any fragility in an alloy Colt 1911 frame. There's a LOT of alloy frame CCWs running hot loads. If you're practicing THAT much ($$$$) and break one, then you've got more that enough assets to replace the frame. Keep up with your round-count and shoot...what you want.
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I have the current Kimber equivalent, a Pro CDP II.
Even in my full-size, steel 1911s I don't use +P .45 ammo, just Federal Hydra Shok or other current, name-brand JHP offerings. Indoors, I load Win Silvertip (185 gr) for reduced penetration.
I'm less concerned with beating up the gun than I am with excessive muzzle flip and getting sights back on target quickly. The alloy-framed gun has that much more muzzle flip than the heavier steel guns with standard-pressure rounds, and +Ps would just exacerbate that. The 1-inch shorter length of the Commander barrel doesn't reduce velocity all that much (maybe 5%) from the 5-inch gun, so I just don't seen the need for +P rounds.
I say just stick with standard-pressure loads in the 200-235 gr range.
I carry a Kimber Tactical Ultra II with a variety of rounds, not at the same time mind you. Depends more on the time of year and if I think BG's will be dressed in coats, sweats, and the like or just a t-shirt. I carry 165 Gr +P Powerball, 185 gr +P Golden Saber, 230 Gr +P Hornady TAP and 230 gr Hydrashok and find that all work just fine. I've stayed away from the 165 gr hollowpoints in 45 ACP as I've had a few hang up on the feedramp but no problems with anything else listed above. FWIW, the lighter Powerball and Golden Saber have rounded off nose profiles so they don't hang up on the feed ramp, at least in my experience.
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Have you found a good ammo for feed problems on the LW commander frame? mine routinely hangs up on the feed ramp.
Perhaps try another magazine, such as a Wilson 47D or a Tripp. Most of the popular JHP rounds these days feed reliably. If your Commander is an older gun, have a gunsmith look at it - he may throat and polish the chamber and possibly the feed ramp, but I'd start with some good mags first.
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I use Speer Gold Dots, Winchester White Box, and American Eagle, in my Ed Brown and Sig 220, all being the 230 gr.
The .45 does not require +P ammo to achieve positive results ......
I am using Hornady 230gr. +p TAP FPD. Feeds fine.
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