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    Hornandy Critical Defense

    I was fortunate enough to purchase a box of Hornandy Critical Defense Ammo 9mm in New York. My questions are:

    1) What is the % stopping power?
    2) Will Hornandy manufacture a .45 ACP Critical Defense round?

    As it stands CD rounds are in 9mm, 38 Special, and 357 Magnum rounds.

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    I don't subscribe to "stopping power." Just too many variables in the real world. In any case, this is a new round with too few real-world uses to make any conclusions. Looks good in tests, for a non - +P round (in 9mm).

    Have not heard anything about a .45 version yet.

    Personally, I prefer the 124 gr Federal +P EFMJ in 9mm - just try finding any!
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    Defense Ammo is in short supply. Incredible. The shortage continues. I am still hunting for 9mm ball at my local friendly neighborhood Walmart. At $20.97 per box of 100 that is a super deal.

    What I like about Hornandy is that the Critical Defense product line claims to penetrate through Jean and leather jackets. Traditional hollow point have had issues with little expansion into these materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpilot007 View Post
    I was fortunate enough to purchase a box of Hornandy Critical Defense Ammo 9mm in New York. My questions are:

    1) What is the % stopping power?
    2) Will Hornandy manufacture a .45 ACP Critical Defense round?

    As it stands CD rounds are in 9mm, 38 Special, and 357 Magnum rounds.

    1) Unlearn the myth of stopping power. There ain't no such animal.
    2) If they were, it'd probably have been released with the other calibers.

    According to some tests, the .38spl CD failed spectacularly. As for the other calibers, I have no idea. IIRC, CD is also available in .380 ACP.
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    I have it for my .380, 9mm, .38 +P. It shoots good.
    I also picked up Hornady 45 AUTO + P 230gr XTP. (Custom)
    Muzzle 950 fps. 50 yds 908 fps. 100 yds 872 fps.

    I did not try it yet. But it looks pretty.

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    Hornady Critical Defense - Behold... The power of marketing.
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    As of right now, the Critical Defense is not offered in .357 magnum loading. No mention of when any other loadings will be offered.

    From Hornady's Website here.

    The only rounds are:
    Critical Defense™
    380 Auto 90 gr. FTX Item No. 90080
    38 Special 110 gr. FTX Item No. 90310
    38 Special+P 110 gr. FTX Item No. 90311
    9 mm Luger 115 gr. FTX Item No. 90250

    I believe the latest to come out is the .38 Spl +P using the same grain bullet as the standard pressure .38 special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    calibers.

    According to some tests, the .38spl CD failed spectacularly.

    what tests would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoprilshoot View Post
    what tests would that be?
    Could be why they just came out with the .38 Spl in +P
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoprilshoot View Post
    what tests would that be?
    Over at M4Carbine.net they did tests of the Hornady CD rounds, the first time through they didn't expand correctly. Hornady sent a new sample of ammo and that expanded correctly, but that doesn't exactly instill confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mourneblade View Post
    Over at M4Carbine.net they did tests of the Hornady CD rounds, the first time through they didn't expand correctly. Hornady sent a new sample of ammo and that expanded correctly, but that doesn't exactly instill confidence.

    thanks!

    ill check it out.



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    The .380's work as expected.

    Here is a sample of expansion from my LCP. 100% feed and performance rate so far.

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    I inquired with Hornady to see if they were planning on a .40 S&W round and they stated they were but market demand would reflect when.
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    It's the good old sales gimick routine we Americians are gulliable for anything that is new on the market, I keep using what has been made in the past" If it's not broke don't fix it 'there is nothing wrong with any of the ammo that has been on the market for the past 20 + yrs. for SD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpilot007 View Post
    Defense Ammo is in short supply. Incredible. The shortage continues. I am still hunting for 9mm ball at my local friendly neighborhood Walmart. At $20.97 per box of 100 that is a super deal.

    What I like about Hornandy is that the Critical Defense product line claims to penetrate through Jean and leather jackets. Traditional hollow point have had issues with little expansion into these materials.
    It is a round point. Just like most .45 manufactures, they normally recommend ball nose. Hormandy is a good name.
    Yes I sell this when it is available.

    I have visited the Winchester plant about 20 miles from my store. I can tell you that they are in fact working 24/7. They are making millions of NATO rounds for our government. We are technically at war. The government takes precedence the rest of us wait in line. Unlike Cabalas and some others I do not sell re manufactured rounds.

    I do not expect the situation to ease up soon. I think the Idea that ammo was or is being horded is an over blown misconception and mostly untrue.

    I am often asked why I can I not get certain types of ammo. The reason is simple. If it is not a NATO round it is simply not being produced by major manufactures.

    I was Lucky and now to obtain 8 cases of 95 gr .380

    For all that own the Rutger LCP I have new Blazer ammo for it.
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