Lead Ammo Question?

Lead Ammo Question?

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    Lead Ammo Question?

    I am having trouble finding reasonably priced 45 auto. (aren't we all) found some lead rounds at the range I shoot at that the owner reloads. They will be shot in a Springfield 45. Any Issues, Comments or Recommendation?


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    Should be fine if you trust the reloader to know what he's doing.

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    Plan on scrubbing that barrel. I don't care how hard the alloy or how slow the velocity, Lead always leaves a barrel trashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    Plan on scrubbing that barrel. I don't care how hard the alloy or how slow the velocity, Lead always leaves a barrel trashed.
    That's somewhat of an exaggeration. Yes, even with hard cast, there is some leading, especially if one is pushing the velocity envelope. Loads in a .45 ACP kept under about 800 fps will not severely lead a barrel, especially one that have been broken in with a couple of thousand jacketed rounds. A virgin barrel is another matter.

    At any rate, a couple of minutes with a Lewis Lead Remover will take care of any leading that accumulates. FWIW, except in virgin barrels, it takes a couple of hundred rounds before leading begins to adversely affect accuracy.
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    There are LOTS of additional variables in shooting lead bullets. Lube, fit of bullet to your barrel, velocity vs. Brinell hardness of alloy. . .Sometimes you get leading b/c alloy's too soft, sometimes b/c it's too hard. Tough to generalize.

    IMO, try 'em out if you trust the reloader. There's a good chance you'll be fine--you don't have some of the problems of revolvers with varying chamber sizes, forcing cones and the like.

    If you do have a problem with leading, get some Chore Boy (pure) copper pot scrubbers from the grocery or hardware store, wrap some around a cleaning brush for a snug fit in your barrel, and scrub it out w/some solvent and w/o much trouble. If it comes to that, don't buy copper-covered steel pot scrubbers--could scratch up your bore. If in doubt, check with a magnet. I've always heard good things about the Lewis Lead Remover, but the Chore Boy solution is widely used by cast bullet shooters, and it's worked for me as I've experimented with casting & loads recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisianaMan View Post
    If you do have a problem with leading, get some Chore Boy (pure) copper pot scrubbers from the grocery or hardware store, wrap some around a cleaning brush for a snug fit in your barrel, and scrub it out w/some solvent and w/o much trouble. If it comes to that, don't buy copper-covered steel pot scrubbers--could scratch up your bore. If in doubt, check with a magnet. I've always heard good things about the Lewis Lead Remover, but the Chore Boy solution is widely used by cast bullet shooters, and it's worked for me as I've experimented with casting & loads recently.
    I just learned a new trick to removing lead. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisianaMan View Post
    There are LOTS of additional variables in shooting lead bullets. Lube, fit of bullet to your barrel, velocity vs. Brinell hardness of alloy. . .Sometimes you get leading b/c alloy's too soft, sometimes b/c it's too hard. Tough to generalize.

    IMO, try 'em out if you trust the reloader. There's a good chance you'll be fine--you don't have some of the problems of revolvers with varying chamber sizes, forcing cones and the like.

    If you do have a problem with leading, get some Chore Boy (pure) copper pot scrubbers from the grocery or hardware store, wrap some around a cleaning brush for a snug fit in your barrel, and scrub it out w/some solvent and w/o much trouble. If it comes to that, don't buy copper-covered steel pot scrubbers--could scratch up your bore. If in doubt, check with a magnet. I've always heard good things about the Lewis Lead Remover, but the Chore Boy solution is widely used by cast bullet shooters, and it's worked for me as I've experimented with casting & loads recently.
    +1 0n the chore boy method

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    Shooting other people's reloads is rarely a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisianaMan View Post
    There are LOTS of additional variables in shooting lead bullets. Lube, fit of bullet to your barrel, velocity vs. Brinell hardness of alloy. . .Sometimes you get leading b/c alloy's too soft, sometimes b/c it's too hard. Tough to generalize.

    IMO, try 'em out if you trust the reloader. There's a good chance you'll be fine--you don't have some of the problems of revolvers with varying chamber sizes, forcing cones and the like.

    If you do have a problem with leading, get some Chore Boy (pure) copper pot scrubbers from the grocery or hardware store, wrap some around a cleaning brush for a snug fit in your barrel, and scrub it out w/some solvent and w/o much trouble. If it comes to that, don't buy copper-covered steel pot scrubbers--could scratch up your bore. If in doubt, check with a magnet. I've always heard good things about the Lewis Lead Remover, but the Chore Boy solution is widely used by cast bullet shooters, and it's worked for me as I've experimented with casting & loads recently.
    Chore Boy works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    Plan on scrubbing that barrel. I don't care how hard the alloy or how slow the velocity, Lead always leaves a barrel trashed.
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    I have been shooting lead bullets, home cast, for over 40 years.

    If my barrels lead up I use OOOO steel wool wraped around a bronze bore brush. A couple of swipes through the bore and it lead free. No damage done to the bores.

    If you use stainless steel brushes do not scrub the bore with them, they are hard and the back & forth movement inside the barrel can cause damage. They are made for stright through pushes and straight back pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    Plan on scrubbing that barrel. I don't care how hard the alloy or how slow the velocity, Lead always leaves a barrel trashed.
    Hmmmm.....I'll have to disagree. I've got about 3,000 rounds of Oregon Trail's Laser-Cast through my Rock Island 5" 1911 (MV 870 fps) and my barrel isn't any more or less leaded than my 4" 1911 that's only had a diet of 230 grain (factory) FMJ. I clean both of them the same way - scrub the barrel with a copper brush soaked with Hoppe's #9 for about a minute and set it aside. Clean the rest of the parts, then return to the barrel. Dry patch until "clean," then use JB Cleaner ONCE. Then dry patch for about a day or two (j/k, it just seems that way) until clean. Then one patch with a LITTLE oil and reassemble.

    I have used really lousy/cheap lead cast bullets (Sheriff's Office reloads for qualifying) and they simply SUCK. I had to work on my .357 after 100 rounds because of the lead build up in the barrel and around the forcing cone. Good quality cast bullets make all the difference!
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    Ive shot lead for the last 40+ years. Hard cast and lubed is good to go and easy to clean. Pure soft lead will coat the barrel and will require a lot of work. Mild leading can be removed with LEAD CLOTH wrapped around a bursh. If the seller is a commercial reloader - probably no issue. If he does it on the side, I would be careful.
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    In all my years of shooting lead bullets the only thing I found that will completely remove the lead fouling is the Foul-out 2 system, sold by outers. Here is a link for the latest system:

    Outers Foul Out 3 Bore Cleaning System - MidwayUSA

    It runs on batteries or an AC adapter, and if you are really serious about cleaning that barrel, that is definitely the way to travel. Since the chemicals are a little pricey, I use mine a couple of times a year to really clean all the bores on my guns.....
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    i have a 4" XD45 and it fires my reloads just fine. Mine doesn't like the 200 grain semi-wad cutters and from all i've read online most others don't as well, jams up almost every round. My .45 rugers are the same way. the 230 grain round nose fire flawlessly. Leading can be an issue my loads are generally between 810-860fps depending on how i load them leading isn't too terrible specially w/ my lazyness going a few range sessions before cleaning. If you trust the reloader then go for it but always be aware of the risks.

    thanks for the chore boy tip might have to try that out if i get disatisfied w/ the way gunzilla gets the lead out

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    the jamming w/ the 200gr smw rounds was when i first started reloading so inexperience could have played a big factor those rounds ran fine in my buddys' 1911's

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