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This is a discussion on .40sw defense ammo within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Nothing but Gold Dots in my 9 or my .40s. If it's good enough for the GSP, it's good enough for me....

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    Nothing but Gold Dots in my 9 or my .40s. If it's good enough for the GSP, it's good enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    However, I find it's more important to worry about the tactics used than the projectile that is luanched once a socially conscious round has been selected.
    What is a "socially conscious" round?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    What is a "socially conscious" round?
    One that has been selected to minimize the dangers to innocents around you and render the violent criminal actor's actions ceased in the most expedient manner.

    That generally means a hollowpoint of some kind, but not always, that stays in the violent criminal actor's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    One that has been selected to minimize the dangers to innocents around you and render the violent criminal actor's actions ceased in the most expedient manner.

    That generally means a hollowpoint of some kind, but not always, that stays in the violent criminal actor's body.

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    Thanks. That's a new term for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    I like the "cheapo" Remington Golden Sabers actually.
    That's what I carry in both glocks and they are available locally. I get good results with them. I've been considering trying the doubletap ammo. The local PD where I work carries some doubletap in .40 and .357 sig.

    Edit: Doubletap has the 135 gr. Nosler JHP for the .40 that is 1375 fps. I haven't talked to anyone that has tried them. Has anyone got any info on them?
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    Ok so I tested some Ranger T, DPX, Hornady XTP, Winchester PDX1, and Gold Dots which I found locally.

    I will say that they all functioned well, but I seemed to group best with the Ranger T, DPX, and Gold Dots. I really wish I could find/get some HST but alas it won't happen. So it's down to a decision...Gold Dot 180gr or Ranger-T 180gr leaving out the DPX due to cost although I do have some in 9mm and .45acp. I think I'm going to rotate that out because it's expensive stuff.

    Are there any direct testing comparing the 180gr Speer Gold-Dot to the 180gr Winchester Ranger-T? If one were to choose between them, price per box being $2 difference in boxes of 50, which would they go with? The differences are probably too minor to be picky I suppose, but should I flip a coin?
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    180 Grain is not need for Home Defense or personals for that matter. I base this on FBI stats. They say 165 155. I bought Winchester Law Enforcement JHP 165 grain. Put 10 rounds thought my Smith and Wesson M&P 40. accurate and smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spec View Post
    180 Grain is not need for Home Defense or personals for that matter. I base this on FBI stats. They say 165 155. I bought Winchester Law Enforcement JHP 165 grain. Put 10 rounds thought my Smith and Wesson M&P 40. accurate and smooth.
    I like a heavier bullet except in the case of DPX which is not available in multiple weights.
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    I carry 180gr Gold Dots in my G23. They are very accurate, no issues, and a great round. I bought 2 boxes of 165gr. HST's a few weeks ago when ATG had them in stock. I'll give them a try soon to see how they shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purwater View Post
    Doubletap has the 135 gr. Nosler JHP for the .40 that is 1375 fps. I haven't talked to anyone that has tried them. Has anyone got any info on them?
    Sorry, never used the Noslers. Maybe you could let us know how they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun View Post
    I carry 180gr Gold Dots in my G23. They are very accurate, no issues, and a great round. I bought 2 boxes of 165gr. HST's a few weeks ago when ATG had them in stock. I'll give them a try soon to see how they shoot.
    Yeah, I tend to follow Dr. Roberts and the testing he has done to see what ammo fares better than others and try to pick a round I can obtain off that list he compiles. That's just me, I take faith in testing and analysis of problems with a particular round (if any). Puts my mind at ease with the fact that the round I use is going to work as it's designed and not plug etc.

    I'm no expert and I see 100 different weights/manufacturers/designs and advertising. So in my mind I wanted to find an expert and take whatever advice they can give. I use a lot of resources and test everything I am thinking of using in my firearm(s). Gold Dots do always come out well in all testing I see so if all else fails I can use them and be confident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    Yeah, I tend to follow Dr. Roberts and the testing he has done to see what ammo fares better than others and try to pick a round I can obtain off that list he compiles. That's just me, I take faith in testing and analysis of problems with a particular round (if any). Puts my mind at ease with the fact that the round I use is going to work as it's designed and not plug etc.

    I'm no expert and I see 100 different weights/manufacturers/designs and advertising. So in my mind I wanted to find an expert and take whatever advice they can give. I use a lot of resources and test everything I am thinking of using in my firearm(s). Gold Dots do always come out well in all testing I see so if all else fails I can use them and be confident.
    I just switched to Gold Dot myself
    Check out this link about them .
    gold dot - Google Videos
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    I use Golden Sabers, 165 @ .40 and 124 @ 9mm.
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    I just bought 3 boxes of 165 HST from ammunitiontogo.com for $25 a box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j21blackjack View Post
    I just bought 3 boxes of 165 HST from ammunitiontogo.com for $25 a box.
    I saw that, but I kinda want 180gr.
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