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Hello, I have been reading the forums and would be interested in what your thoughts might be on how the 25 acp cartridge might be transformed into an effective round. I understand the issues and thoughts of knowledgeable people on this forum. I am interested in starting a discussion on what might make this a potent SD round, i.e. thinking outside the box (assuming anything could be done of course).
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PS: I just realized this post belongs in "Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics" so I hope one of the forum moderators will move it there.
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Can a 25 be made into a effective round? Maybe if you stuff it in a necked down rifle cartridge, or stretch the lead to about double its .25" diameter.
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Short answer, NO.
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In short, the answer you're more than likely to find here is - No, perhaps as a last ditch BUG, but I doubt you're going to find anyway to make the .25 into an effective SD round.
Now then, there was an article in Shotgun News (Volume 63, Issue 20, cover date July 20,2009) where the author makes mention of Winchester 45 grain expanding point ammunition. "It is a jacketed hollow point bullet with a lead pellet in the hollow points cavity and it will penetrate the deepest, together with providing the greatest amount of expansion." (Author's words, not mine)
I guess if a .25 is what you have to work with, I'd look for some of that.
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With the proper application of elastic compound cylinders and organically derived framing, the .25 is an outstanding round. Capable of reaching a blistering 70 fps from the initial release of the contraption at one's target.
Unless you have a slingshot handy, no, it's not very good.
Sort of the universally despised caliber, actually.
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This guy goes over "mouse gun" tactics. I think this is some what of an answer.
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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anything can be use for a last ditch. I would relay more on the steel shrouded ball point then a .25.
do not take that to mean I am willing to be shot with one though.
"a gun of any caliber in the hand is better then a .45 in the safe."
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Read some of the current "mousegun" threads on this forum.
Yes, with proper shot placement.
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on the job i have seen many that have been killed with a 25 acp. also i have seen many that have been shot with one and it did not do much. come to think about it i have seen some shot with larger cals and they did not do much. proper shot placement is the key with any hand gun. go ahead and make fun of the 25 acp, but i don't see any one wanting to get shot by one. a 25 acp in hand is better than two 45 acp back home or in the car.
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I have shot a Beretta Jetfire in .25 and like all mouseguns, I would not want to volunteer to catch a bullet from one. The advantage is that the guns are small that they tend to get carried more than their larger caliber counterparts.