Sacrificing caliber for cost

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    I really enjoy my handguns and my 10mm handguns are my favorites! I can, if I wish, drop a .40 S&W barrel (accompanied by a lighter recoil spring) into either my Glock Model 20, or DW Razorback and shoot to my heart's content.

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    Someone pass the popcorn please.

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    If you have an orginial 1911A1 it could be worth $1000.00 upward depending on condition and manufacture.

    If you decided to sell it. you could buy the handgun of choice and bunches of ammo.

    However since it is a heirloom It should be priceless to you.

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    Hang onto the 1911A1 for sure. Ditch the 38spl and ammo, and buy a 9mm. Keep the 22lr pistol.

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    I don't know about .380 being so hard to get, I just bought 15 boxes, and I could have had more if I wanted to. The price is still higher than 9mm, but it always was.
    .40 S&W is currently the caliber being pushed by the FBI. It costs a bit more than 9mm but I seem to find it everywhere I go. It has penetration that beats the pants off of 9mm, about 12 to 15" in ballistic gelatin which is nice to have in todays drug-crazed society. I prefer .45acp or .44 Magnum but I don't mind carrying my Desert Eagle all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSA9 View Post
    I ask myself the same thing a while back and the answer was
    9MM.
    Going up from 9MM gives more recoil and less ammo in the gun
    and higher ammo cost with a slight increase in one shot stop(if you
    even buy into that thinking)of about 4 to 8 percent at the cost
    of at least 10 percent loss on round count in the gun.

    Loss of personal performance with follow up shots for me was
    hard to guess, but it was over 10 percent with .40-.45
    The cost of ammo to practice with was that lower with 9MM
    I can buy three boxes of 9MM for what two boxes of 40 or 45 cost
    Thats a loss of 33 percent of practice to go up from 9MM to
    40 or 45.

    Going down from 9MM is the same story in reverse
    less power (IE one shot stop)and more cost.
    Well put! That was the same conclusion I came to, thus my primary carry is 9mm and BUG is .38 spcl.
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    I've bought and shot 5 times the amount of 9mm over .45 this past year. Although not the only factor, cost has had something to do with that. I have just as much confidence (or lack of) in modern 9mm ammo as any other caliber for SD so it makes it a no-brainer for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billdeserthills View Post
    It [.40] has penetration that beats the pants off of 9mm, about 12 to 15" in ballistic gelatin which is nice to have in todays drug-crazed society.
    Really? Do you have a source for this? Every test I've seen puts 9mm, .40, .45, 10mm, .357 Sig, etc within the margin of error. Simply put, all ammo makers are trying to meet the same FBI standard, so (no surprise) they all do.
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    Someday, when you're 'bigger', I'll let you shoot my EDC, a Glock-36 (.45 caliber).
    Even my wife can shoot it...but again, it's not for wimps.

    Of course you can shoot a .45, and BG's hate the bigger holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Someday, when you're 'bigger', I'll let you shoot my EDC, a Glock-36 (.45 caliber).
    Even my wife can shoot it...but again, it's not for wimps.

    Of course you can shoot a .45, and BG's hate the bigger holes.
    Thanks, Ret. If i'm ever in FL, I'll take you up on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunfan View Post
    I really enjoy my handguns and my 10mm handguns are my favorites! I can, if I wish, drop a .40 S&W barrel (accompanied by a lighter recoil spring) into either my Glock Model 20, or DW Razorback and shoot to my heart's content.
    No need, just buy 10mm ammo off the shelf - most of it is loaded to 40 specs anyway . This is really meant, in good faith, as a warning that when buying 10mm ammo, you may not be getting what you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Really? Do you have a source for this? Every test I've seen puts 9mm, .40, .45, 10mm, .357 Sig, etc within the margin of error. Simply put, all ammo makers are trying to meet the same FBI standard, so (no surprise) they all do.
    Do you disbelieve the evidence found done with ballistic gelatin testing? I accept these tests as factual. They show the .40 round to penetrate about double the 9mm if I recall correctly.

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    Many police agencies have switched to .40 pistols because of supposed greater stopping power, as well as still manageable recoil and comparable magazine capacity to a 9mm.

    I don't doubt the tests, but I also know that most bullets kill, and the real-world differences are smaller than most people think.

    Training and shot placement are considerably more important than caliber. There is a tendency to blame the caliber whenever a combat situation goes wrong, yet unfortunately, training (or lack thereof) is usually to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimeech View Post
    I even toyed with the idea of getting the Glock .45 subcompact till I realized what kind of kick that thing must have.
    It's more of a shove....But I', 6'2" 260lbs.

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    I carry a .40, but im definitely on the "nine is fine" wagon. Each has advantages and disadvantages i.e. capacity, bullet mass, recoil/follow up shots. I like .40 because I am not very recoil sensitive and I think it's a fine mix of bullet mass and capacity.
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