454 Casull vs 44 Mag?
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November 23rd, 2009 11:16 AM
I dunno...if I lived in brown bear territory, I think I'd be more comfortable with a 12 g shotgun loaded with slugs...as long as the local LEOs didn't hassle you about walking around with a slung long arm...
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all. Get a gun you will always carry, and add more capability as you grow.
November 23rd, 2009 11:37 AM
It depends on the gun and the load your going to use as far as ballistics ect.
When I was looking for a large caliber magnum, I started to look at the 454 Cas. The more I looked the more I decided I really didn't want or need it. I picked a Ruger Redhawk 44 mag.
Why, because the cost of shooting the 44 is way less than a 454. You can find ammo at walmart if you need for a 44 and not so easy for a 454. Even the cost of reloading the 44 is cheaper than the 454.
The 454 is a pretty hot load, however there are loads out there for the 44 that are pretty darn close to that of the 454. You can't shoot them in all guns, as some of the manufacturers specifically exclude many manufactures guns from shooting them. However most Rugers are good to go with these very hot 44 loads. Here is the data from Buffalo Bore on their hottest 44 mag load.
Now would these be fun to shoot for an afternoon, probably not, but you can get a bunch more power out of a 44 than what is typically thought of, if you can hang on to your pistol.
Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Ammo - 340 gr. L.F.N. - G.C. (1,478 fps/M.E. 1,649 ft. lbs.) - 20 Round Box
NEW HEAVY 44 MAGNUM +P+
This new load is designed for only certain revolvers that have the cylinder length to handle it. They are as follows. Ruger Red Hawk, Ruger Super Red Hawk, Ruger Super Blackhawk or Vaquero, Freedom Arms Model 83, Taurus Raging Bull and Dan Wesson Revolvers. Suitable rifles include T/C Encore, "modified" Marlin 1894, Winchester 1894, any rifle with a falling block action and the Handi Rifle
To me, hands down the 44 mag wins this contest and is exactly the reason I backed away from the 454 and went with my 44 when looking at the same question you asked.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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November 24th, 2009 12:16 AM
Using a 454 Cas, or 460 without hearing protection WILL cause permanent and severe ear damage, according to a doctor friend.
They are best used as hunters when ear protection can be used with a deliberate shot. As far as a Trail gun, I would use a 44 mag.
That being said, ear damage is much preferable to being mauled by a bear.....
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