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Looks like the gold dot doesn't perform very well through multiple layers of clothing.
Is the Ranger round the same as the old Black talon?
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I prefer the 180 GD to the 165. I wish they would have compared all bullets in the 180 weight.
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If you look at ATK's Wound ballistics Workshop, the GD's do better than HST's thru autoglass - pick your poison.
All my defensive rounds are either HST or Ranger T series,I even sent my daughter 100 rounds of 124 grn ranger T,
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Stick with heavy-for-the-caliber HST (e.g. 180gr .40, 230gr .45) and they'll perform just fine through glass and offer superior performance everywhere else.
From the Ft. Collins testing:
Test Event #6 – Auto Glass @ 10 Feet
Bullet Caliber/Weight Penetration Expansion (in.) RetainedWeight
Federal HST 40 S&W 180 gr. 12.75” 0.510” 63.50%**
Winchester SXT 40 S&W 180 gr. 10.25” 0.465” 71.83%**
Remington GS 40 S&W 180 gr. 10.50” 0.560” 68.11%**
Speer GDHP 40 S&W 180 gr. 13.00” 0.760” 84.89%
**Core Jacket Separation **
These companies have been known to tweak bullet designs all the time which is why I looked at their latest test which is significantly newer than the prior tests. In their latest test, HST did just as good as gold dot through glass. Additionally, the 180gr version passed the FBI's windshield test, including all others. The secret is that the heavy bullets work better through intermediate barriers, including glass.
You made a good choice.