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    Think these will be outlawed?


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    During Viet Nam, a round was developed that was hollow and contained bunches of needles in the hollow casing, that when it fired, the needles would shred throughout the body, wreaking havoc. The Geneva Convention people outlawed it as too inhuman. It's purpose was not to kill as it was designed to injure the enemy so badly that the enemy was no longer a combatant. It takes 5 to 7 people to care for one wounded soldier. If it did kill, that was just a by-product, not the primary intent.

    This round would be declared illegal if the Geneva people hear about it, however, it's just a normal Varmint Round. I used to shoot 22/250 rifles, and it was a standard round. The bullet disintegrates upon impact. Fairly safe to people/objects not hit by bullet, devastating to the target however.

    BTW, these are for re-loaders only. I don't think you can buy ready-made ammunition with these bullets. They are only in .20 and .22 diameter rounds.
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    545 x 39 was not liked very well by the Geneva people also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDannie View Post
    BTW, these are for re-loaders only. I don't think you can buy ready-made ammunition with these bullets. They are only in .20 and .22 diameter rounds.
    Not completely true as they are at least commercially loaded in .223 found here

    They are also available in 6mm (.243) cal as well as found here

    Though I have a friend who has tried them and not found them as accurate as other rounds in his .223 so I haven't tried them.

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    No, they won't be outlawed. The purpose of the varmit grenade is safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDannie View Post
    During Viet Nam, a round was developed that was hollow and contained bunches of needles in the hollow casing, that when it fired, the needles would shred throughout the body, wreaking havoc. The Geneva Convention people outlawed it as too inhuman. It's purpose was not to kill as it was designed to injure the enemy so badly that the enemy was no longer a combatant. It takes 5 to 7 people to care for one wounded soldier. If it did kill, that was just a by-product, not the primary intent.

    This round would be declared illegal if the Geneva people hear about it, however, it's just a normal Varmint Round. I used to shoot 22/250 rifles, and it was a standard round. The bullet disintegrates upon impact. Fairly safe to people/objects not hit by bullet, devastating to the target however.

    BTW, these are for re-loaders only. I don't think you can buy ready-made ammunition with these bullets. They are only in .20 and .22 diameter rounds.
    The Geneva Convention has no authority over civilian ammunition.
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    I like that round! Sounds like I need to get a few of those for varmint control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDannie View Post
    During Viet Nam, a round was developed that was hollow and contained bunches of needles in the hollow casing, that when it fired, the needles would shred throughout the body, wreaking havoc. The Geneva Convention people outlawed it as too inhuman. It's purpose was not to kill as it was designed to injure the enemy so badly that the enemy was no longer a combatant. It takes 5 to 7 people to care for one wounded soldier. If it did kill, that was just a by-product, not the primary intent.

    This round would be declared illegal if the Geneva people hear about it, however, it's just a normal Varmint Round. I used to shoot 22/250 rifles, and it was a standard round. The bullet disintegrates upon impact. Fairly safe to people/objects not hit by bullet, devastating to the target however.

    BTW, these are for re-loaders only. I don't think you can buy ready-made ammunition with these bullets. They are only in .20 and .22 diameter rounds.
    I believe those were shotgun rounds,called fleshette rounds,had a buncha needles with a flattened area on back to act like stabilizing fins,gunships also carried the 2.75" rockets with fleshettes,very nasty.
    I have seen the shotgun fleshette rounds being sold at gun shows,one drawback is the fleshettes are so light that they lose velocity pretty quick so they are a close range round
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    Well, Viet Nam was a long, long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away . . . anyway, my memory isn't as good as it was, so I stand corrected on the numerous errors of my prior post.

    Having said all that, I was implying that for us hand-gunners, these rounds are not easily available to us. As far as the Geneva issue, that was tongue in cheek comments.
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    stick with Vmax, better bullet for long range work...
    some pics of my 70 kills from this summer..

    longest was 460y with a 40gr 223 Vmax

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