Weird rounds

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    Weird rounds

    Does anyone know what the purpose of these rounds might be?

    They look handmade and like they might be armor-piercing.
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    If you're talking about the brass ones, I'm not sure but they do resemble some of those rounds a Belgian company called VBR was marketing, they don't look exactly the same though so it could be coincidence/prototype or somebody else who came up with the same idea. I believe theirs were armor piercing.

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    Interesting read

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    Agreed, very interesting read. The following caught my attention:

    Van Dyk went on to design a revised 9mm bullet intended to provide some expansion. The bullet retains the conical point but has a high ridge surrounding it. It was known as the 'Cobra' bullet, which was further developed into the 'Eliminator' or 'Sentry' bullets. These have been produced in a wide range of pistol calibres, including the 7.62x25 Tokarev. Bullets similar to the THV have also been made by Ram Products in 9mm, .38 and .45 calibres.

    I wonder if the Federal HydraShok is a variation on this design - or did it come first? I believe the HydraShok design was created in the early 80s.
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    I recall the THV being older...when I first started in LE (mid 80's) there was an old timer who had a couple of the .357 magnum THV's in his cartridge loops. I don't recall having seen hydra-shoks before that...just going on my memory, alone, though...

    The hydra-shock was invented by Tom Byrzinski(sp?) and the design later picked-up by Federal, IIRC...

    I have some books that should give more accurate dates, if I can find them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by awoodpd13 View Post
    I recall the THV being older...when I first started in LE (mid 80's) there was an old timer who had a couple of the .357 magnum THV's in his cartridge loops. I don't recall having seen hydra-shoks before that...just going on my memory, alone, though...

    The hydra-shock was invented by Tom Byrzinski(sp?) and the design later picked-up by Federal, IIRC...

    I have some books that should give more accurate dates, if I can find them...
    Yea, Federal bought the rights to the design, but I don't know when. The two designs sure sound related.
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    Looks like a box full of Christmas tree ornaments.....er...ah.....um...armaments.

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    Thanks, awood.

    Here is the rest of the box, just for fun. Pic comes from here:

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    the picture of the .357 near the bottom of awoods article looks very similar to a .38 critical defense round!

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